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Is this useful because of the decline of email (pverty of address books)? Or because of the difficulty in hooking mailto: links to webmail services?

by jbert 15y ago

tuhin 15y ago
This is useful because I cannot remember the emails of all my friends and also the default email share widget does not know them either. This was something ideally Google should have come up with but never mind!
- StavrosK 15y ago
  It's what www.yourpane.com does, but when I submitted it here I got little to no love...
  - tuhin 15y ago
    Getting no love on HN does not mean you or the product is not good. Being sad and pouty about it might. Move on, make it so big and good that someone else posts it on HN the next time instead of you doing it.
    - StavrosK 15y ago
      It wasn't my intention to be pouty, I just remarked on what happened. I'm in the process of growing it, and its users find it extremely useful so far, after they get past the "why can't I just email them?" stage and see that this is much faster. If anything, Facebook's move provides me with a clear way to position the product, rather than have to say "it's a bit easier than email".
      - tuhin 15y ago
        Sorry for being rude (if I was). I have that feeling too when I get no love for my ideas or comments or web projects. But I have learnt to put the narcissism behind me and take the bigger lesson. Which is: WHY did it happen? WHY did they not like it? Also I will give it a shot and suggest if there is something that can be improved (at least from an experience perspective). You can of course take it or ignore it too.
        StavrosK 15y ago
        Oh, no, they liked it very much (the comments where overwhelmingly positive, such as "this already changed the way I share things"), it just didn't get noticed/upvoted much.
  - tuhin 15y ago
    Ok I tried the product and here are my suggestions: 1) Use Google Connect/Yahoo or something so that you can access my Contacts list 2) It is the same as opening a browser window with email app since the contacts are not there already or shown in a dropdown. 3)The problem is not that I have to move away from the page to share it. The pain comes in moving away and doing stuff. If I have to move away to find that one email id, it is of no use. 4) Who would save Contacts in a seperate list? No CSV Upload is not the solution.
  - mtw 15y ago
    I think your main graphic doesn't explain at all your service. you should animate it (use flash) or use a javascript gallery so people know exactly what it is or maybe the advantages are not clear at all. everyone can already share links through skype, msn or email or facebook so it's not clear why they'd need yourpane I know the feeling of working so hard on a project and then apparently nobody notices. It doesn't mean your idea or vision sucks, starting a service takes determination. Applies to 99% of developers, and only 1% gets on the frontpage of HN, because they took a lot of time to craft simple and efficient copy and design, and also took a lot of time to think about the features
    - StavrosK 15y ago
      I agree with you on the graphic, it does need a bit more explanation. The purpose of the service is to complement IM, for when you want to share things with people who aren't on IM right now or don't want to be bothered (or sharing with multiple people). You send a link to the people you want, they get to it on their own time. A crucial feature that is sort-of missing is the ability to comment on links, because sending links is an inherently social act. I'll work on this more if people start using the service, but there are a few problems due to the way the service works.
- jbert 15y ago
  > This is useful because I cannot remember the emails of all my friends But a mailto: link should pop up your default mail client - which does know your friends email addresses: mailto:?subject=cool%20link&body=Here%20is%20a%20cool%20link%20to%20http://example.com http://example.com i.e. it should do exactly this if set up correctly. So - is this really just that most clients don't have mailto: configured to launch the application which knows the email addresses of their friends?
  - smackfu 15y ago
    The "application" nowadays is usually GMail or Yahoo Mail or some other website. It seems like this is really a browser failing.

Is this useful because of the decline of email (pverty of address books)? Or because of the difficulty in hooking mailto: links to webmail services?

by jbert 15y ago

Is this useful because of the decline of email (pverty of address books)? Or because of the difficulty in hooking mailto: links to webmail services?

tuhin 15y ago

This is useful because I cannot remember the emails of all my friends and also the default email share widget does not know them either. This was something ideally Google should have come up with but never mind!

StavrosK 15y ago
It's what www.yourpane.com does, but when I submitted it here I got little to no love...
- tuhin 15y ago
  Getting no love on HN does not mean you or the product is not good. Being sad and pouty about it might. Move on, make it so big and good that someone else posts it on HN the next time instead of you doing it.
  - StavrosK 15y ago
    It wasn't my intention to be pouty, I just remarked on what happened. I'm in the process of growing it, and its users find it extremely useful so far, after they get past the "why can't I just email them?" stage and see that this is much faster. If anything, Facebook's move provides me with a clear way to position the product, rather than have to say "it's a bit easier than email".
    - tuhin 15y ago
      Sorry for being rude (if I was). I have that feeling too when I get no love for my ideas or comments or web projects. But I have learnt to put the narcissism behind me and take the bigger lesson. Which is: WHY did it happen? WHY did they not like it? Also I will give it a shot and suggest if there is something that can be improved (at least from an experience perspective). You can of course take it or ignore it too.
      - StavrosK 15y ago
        Oh, no, they liked it very much (the comments where overwhelmingly positive, such as "this already changed the way I share things"), it just didn't get noticed/upvoted much.
- tuhin 15y ago
  Ok I tried the product and here are my suggestions: 1) Use Google Connect/Yahoo or something so that you can access my Contacts list 2) It is the same as opening a browser window with email app since the contacts are not there already or shown in a dropdown. 3)The problem is not that I have to move away from the page to share it. The pain comes in moving away and doing stuff. If I have to move away to find that one email id, it is of no use. 4) Who would save Contacts in a seperate list? No CSV Upload is not the solution.
- mtw 15y ago
  I think your main graphic doesn't explain at all your service. you should animate it (use flash) or use a javascript gallery so people know exactly what it is or maybe the advantages are not clear at all. everyone can already share links through skype, msn or email or facebook so it's not clear why they'd need yourpane I know the feeling of working so hard on a project and then apparently nobody notices. It doesn't mean your idea or vision sucks, starting a service takes determination. Applies to 99% of developers, and only 1% gets on the frontpage of HN, because they took a lot of time to craft simple and efficient copy and design, and also took a lot of time to think about the features
  - StavrosK 15y ago
    I agree with you on the graphic, it does need a bit more explanation. The purpose of the service is to complement IM, for when you want to share things with people who aren't on IM right now or don't want to be bothered (or sharing with multiple people). You send a link to the people you want, they get to it on their own time. A crucial feature that is sort-of missing is the ability to comment on links, because sending links is an inherently social act. I'll work on this more if people start using the service, but there are a few problems due to the way the service works.
jbert 15y ago
> This is useful because I cannot remember the emails of all my friends But a mailto: link should pop up your default mail client - which does know your friends email addresses: mailto:?subject=cool%20link&body=Here%20is%20a%20cool%20link%20to%20http://example.com http://example.com i.e. it should do exactly this if set up correctly. So - is this really just that most clients don't have mailto: configured to launch the application which knows the email addresses of their friends?
- smackfu 15y ago
  The "application" nowadays is usually GMail or Yahoo Mail or some other website. It seems like this is really a browser failing.