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Funny thing I: I added some AI to my CS curriculum in Uni. They said back then: "20 years ago, they made a lot of AI predictions, but they obviously did not hap

by icoder 6y ago

Funny thing I: I added some AI to my CS curriculum in Uni. They said back then: "20 years ago, they made a lot of AI predictions, but they obviously did not happen, but 20 years from _now_ : oh boy". That was 20 years ago, and well, history seems to repeat itself. We'll see. Maybe with Moore's law alikes pushing the processing capacities and a separate 10x improvement in the mechanics (ie 'how' AI learns).

ivalm 6y ago
Machine translation, search, recommendation, face/object detection, image processing are just a subset of very real technologies broadly deployed today that benefit from machine learning (a subset of AI).
- acdha 6y ago
  AI does suffer from the problem where the term seems to be defined as “what we can't do now”. That said, I think those are also good examples of why it's important to be realistic – good translation has been significant, especially for travelers, but search, recommendations, face detection, etc. have been modest incremental improvements. That's great to have but a lot of people aren't content with that billing and create problems by overselling it as game-changing.
  - csours 6y ago
    Exactly. - "In my experience and opinion, as soon as something is well defined it becomes Artificial Narrow Intelligence - Vision systems, Natural Language Processing, Machine Learning, Neural Networks - it loses the name "AI" and gets its own specific name." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24767341 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24767341
  - ponker 6y ago
    Face detection is really valuable to me. I have cameras on the front of my house and I get an alert on my phone when someone unrecognized comes up to the house. It sometimes false triggers on me and my wife but it let us know 1) when a package is delivered 2) when our kids wander out to the front yard 3) hasn't happened yet, but if a sketchy person came onto our property.
    - acdha 6y ago
      Yes, and it's gotten better than the older CV approaches. My point is that it's nice but it didn't significantly transform your life the same way, say, a smartphone did.
amznthrwaway 6y ago
I've worked on very real problems where AI provided an improvement over alternatives. That said, 90+% of AI products have AI because it sells well, not because it's better than alternatives.

by icoder 6y ago

ivalm 6y ago

Machine translation, search, recommendation, face/object detection, image processing are just a subset of very real technologies broadly deployed today that benefit from machine learning (a subset of AI).

acdha 6y ago
AI does suffer from the problem where the term seems to be defined as “what we can't do now”. That said, I think those are also good examples of why it's important to be realistic – good translation has been significant, especially for travelers, but search, recommendations, face detection, etc. have been modest incremental improvements. That's great to have but a lot of people aren't content with that billing and create problems by overselling it as game-changing.
- csours 6y ago
  Exactly. - "In my experience and opinion, as soon as something is well defined it becomes Artificial Narrow Intelligence - Vision systems, Natural Language Processing, Machine Learning, Neural Networks - it loses the name "AI" and gets its own specific name." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24767341 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24767341
- ponker 6y ago
  Face detection is really valuable to me. I have cameras on the front of my house and I get an alert on my phone when someone unrecognized comes up to the house. It sometimes false triggers on me and my wife but it let us know 1) when a package is delivered 2) when our kids wander out to the front yard 3) hasn't happened yet, but if a sketchy person came onto our property.
  - acdha 6y ago
    Yes, and it's gotten better than the older CV approaches. My point is that it's nice but it didn't significantly transform your life the same way, say, a smartphone did.

amznthrwaway 6y ago

I've worked on very real problems where AI provided an improvement over alternatives. That said, 90+% of AI products have AI because it sells well, not because it's better than alternatives.