> what we desperately need is not more no-code builders, but a robust, DB-backed builder with an object-based workflow, and with code-behind for custom workflow

> what we desperately need is not more no-code builders, but a robust, DB-backed builder with an object-based workflow, and with code-behind for custom workflow logic Have you looked at PHPMaker? https://phpmaker.dev/features.php https://phpmaker.dev/features.php