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His response: > I believe that's how business works ;) > I have this thing, e.g an iPhone, if you want it you must pay me. > I think that speeding CPython 50

His response: > I believe that's how business works ;) > I have this thing, e.g an iPhone, if you want it you must pay me. > I think that speeding CPython 50% is worth a few hundred iPhones. I wonder if he considered publishing it under a restrictive license that doesn't allow real world use. Then people could scrutinize his claims but there would still be an incentive to pay up for him to relicense it.

remote_phone 6y ago
Releasing it before payment would be an insanely bad idea. 50k is about 3 months worth of a single FAANG developers base salary. It’s well worth it for someone to pay for the code.
- nlpx 6y ago
  There are many other developers who have made huge contributions and have not asked for money. But in the new corporate Python world this might be the logical conclusion. The losers are the people who made Python what it is today, for free.
  - xapata 6y ago
    Maybe. Guido probably got some Google and Dropbox shares, so I'll bet he's not unhappy with the results of his work.
  - coldtea 6y ago
    >The losers are the people who made Python what it is today, for free. Why are they "losers"? Did they sign any contract that something is owned to them? They did it for fun/personal reasons/ideology, and what they created is used by millions. If they wanted to get paid for doing it, they could very well have had as well - several core python contributors have worked in large companies doing Python (including core Python) work, most famous of all Guido.
    - ybhx 6y ago
      Not a core developer, but part of my job at my company is to follow CPython development very closely. I don't see the pattern that the core contributors who work for large companies do important work. A lot of it is churn and minor patches. Most important work appears to have been done by people who contribute a large chunk of code and then often leave. Or by people who don't work for large companies but did a lot of useful bug fixes.
- duckerude 6y ago
  The parties most likely to pay would still have reason to pay. The PSF couldn't merge the code until it has the right license. Large tech companies like Google wouldn't be willing to use the code until it has the right license. If releasing the code under "look, don't touch" terms helps convince them that paying is worth it then that seems like a good idea.
sk2020 6y ago
He sounds like a grifter. Why not release this super-dooper Python interpreter under a proprietary license? Just have people pay $1000 for it. If it works, then it’s a steal for people who use Python for business. “Well, you have to take me at my word and pay me first” is highly suspect. I’ll use PyPy, thanks.

remote_phone 6y ago

Releasing it before payment would be an insanely bad idea. 50k is about 3 months worth of a single FAANG developers base salary. It’s well worth it for someone to pay for the code.

nlpx 6y ago
There are many other developers who have made huge contributions and have not asked for money. But in the new corporate Python world this might be the logical conclusion. The losers are the people who made Python what it is today, for free.
- xapata 6y ago
  Maybe. Guido probably got some Google and Dropbox shares, so I'll bet he's not unhappy with the results of his work.
- coldtea 6y ago
  >The losers are the people who made Python what it is today, for free. Why are they "losers"? Did they sign any contract that something is owned to them? They did it for fun/personal reasons/ideology, and what they created is used by millions. If they wanted to get paid for doing it, they could very well have had as well - several core python contributors have worked in large companies doing Python (including core Python) work, most famous of all Guido.
  - ybhx 6y ago
    Not a core developer, but part of my job at my company is to follow CPython development very closely. I don't see the pattern that the core contributors who work for large companies do important work. A lot of it is churn and minor patches. Most important work appears to have been done by people who contribute a large chunk of code and then often leave. Or by people who don't work for large companies but did a lot of useful bug fixes.
duckerude 6y ago
The parties most likely to pay would still have reason to pay. The PSF couldn't merge the code until it has the right license. Large tech companies like Google wouldn't be willing to use the code until it has the right license. If releasing the code under "look, don't touch" terms helps convince them that paying is worth it then that seems like a good idea.

sk2020 6y ago

He sounds like a grifter. Why not release this super-dooper Python interpreter under a proprietary license? Just have people pay $1000 for it. If it works, then it’s a steal for people who use Python for business. “Well, you have to take me at my word and pay me first” is highly suspect. I’ll use PyPy, thanks.