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What happened with Netscape? It survived?

by mrkramer 6y ago

grishka 6y ago
It became Mozilla
- mrkramer 6y ago
  So what was the point of antitrust lawsuit against Microsoft if current browser/s were able to adapt and evolve.
  - AlexandrB 6y ago
    I think the point was that they were able to adapt and evolve because Microsoft's ability to force IE on users was constrained by the antitrust action. It's possible that without antitrust Mozilla might have died on the vine.
  - whimsicalism 6y ago
    Your logic makes absolutely 0 sense, the success of current browsers is not exogenous to the lawsuit. Current browser/s were able to adapt and evolve in the context of an anti-trust lawsuit against Microsoft. It's like saying "what was the reason for the Fed taking an expansionary stance in March if the stock market clearly has been doing fine since then?"
    - mrkramer 6y ago
      My logic makes perfect sense from my economic point of view. I'm a neoliberal economist and I think that hardcore competition benefits customers and consumers since it drives quality of products and services up and it drives prices of products and services down. State intervention is only required if a company is ravaging the economy.
      - whimsicalism 6y ago
        > My logic makes perfect sense from my economic point of view. I'm a neoliberal economist Naming your particular ideological bent does not make your logic any more convincing. My understanding was that self-identifying "neoliberals" believed in data-driven policy. As a data engineer, I'm telling you that the causal assumptions you are making are fundamentally faulty. Perhaps they align better with your ideological view, but that doesn't mean it makes "perfect sense."
  - mthoms 6y ago
    Because... maybe it worked?
  - contextfree 6y ago
    the argument is that they were able to catch up to / surpass IE because Microsoft stopped working on it for 5 years. (I'm not endorsing or rejecting it myself.)
bhauer 6y ago
In a manner of speaking, yes. Netscape begot Mozilla, which in turn begot Firefox.

What happened with Netscape? It survived?

grishka 6y ago

It became Mozilla

mrkramer 6y ago
So what was the point of antitrust lawsuit against Microsoft if current browser/s were able to adapt and evolve.
- AlexandrB 6y ago
  I think the point was that they were able to adapt and evolve because Microsoft's ability to force IE on users was constrained by the antitrust action. It's possible that without antitrust Mozilla might have died on the vine.
- whimsicalism 6y ago
  Your logic makes absolutely 0 sense, the success of current browsers is not exogenous to the lawsuit. Current browser/s were able to adapt and evolve in the context of an anti-trust lawsuit against Microsoft. It's like saying "what was the reason for the Fed taking an expansionary stance in March if the stock market clearly has been doing fine since then?"
  - mrkramer 6y ago
    My logic makes perfect sense from my economic point of view. I'm a neoliberal economist and I think that hardcore competition benefits customers and consumers since it drives quality of products and services up and it drives prices of products and services down. State intervention is only required if a company is ravaging the economy.
    - whimsicalism 6y ago
      > My logic makes perfect sense from my economic point of view. I'm a neoliberal economist Naming your particular ideological bent does not make your logic any more convincing. My understanding was that self-identifying "neoliberals" believed in data-driven policy. As a data engineer, I'm telling you that the causal assumptions you are making are fundamentally faulty. Perhaps they align better with your ideological view, but that doesn't mean it makes "perfect sense."
- mthoms 6y ago
  Because... maybe it worked?
- contextfree 6y ago
  the argument is that they were able to catch up to / surpass IE because Microsoft stopped working on it for 5 years. (I'm not endorsing or rejecting it myself.)

bhauer 6y ago

In a manner of speaking, yes. Netscape begot Mozilla, which in turn begot Firefox.