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I don't think your hatred is irrational. I, too, hate discord and everything it stands for. Your points are very valid indeed, but I think the main reason I hat

I don't think your hatred is irrational. I, too, hate discord and everything it stands for. Your points are very valid indeed, but I think the main reason I hate it is because it really showed me that I am in the grave minority when it comes to caring about the issues you listed. Nearly* all people I know don't give a fuck: They don't give a fuck that it's a web browser with web widgets and humongous spacing everywhere. They don't care that it cannot be customized. They don't care about who runs the whole operation. They don't care where the money comes from. They don't care that I (I know, I know) have to fill out about 15 captchas every time I want to interact with the thing. They don't care that other clients are forbidden and a bannable offense. Every time someone invites me to discord, it shows me that the world indeed couldn't care less about the values that are central to me when evaluating software. But I wouldn't expect that from the gaming community anyways, those guys never cared. The true pain comes when I find some free software project where all developement talk is on discord. Because it shows me that even the people I'd expect to care at least a tiny little bit about all those points, are okay with this. I also want to add that I want to punch an executive every time someone calls his discord space a "server". It's not a server. It seems that fight is lost as well. Discord servers are what people think of now when the word server is used, and this change of meaning will not be reversed. *Except my two best friends, who continue using a self hosted teamspeak/mumble with me and of whom one shares my grief about the whole discord situation.

Slartie 6y ago
>I also want to add that I want to punch an executive every time someone calls his discord space a "server". It's not a server. As far as I know, they don't even internally use that name, but call it a "guild", which is kind of a bad name in its own right (because not every community using Discord is a "guild" - not even in gaming, since mostly fantasy-MMORPG-style games call their game-internal groups "guilds", other games often use different monikers, "clans" or "corporations" or whatever fits the game world). However, I must admit that it was a genius idea to market the thing to users as a "server", because that invokes the idea of an actual dedicated server as they were typical for earlier Teamspeak/Mumble solutions, which usually was a significant time and money investment. By calling Discord communities "servers", people who switch over from one of these classic self-hosted setups subconsciously think they are now getting the same thing for free that they usually had to pay a significant sum of money for.
- f1refly 6y ago
  I don't believe anyone who every ran his own voicecomm server has the feeling that he's getting the same thing as before, especially since the operations where a bit more involved. My guess is the terminology is purely for the little guys, the users who never ran a server themselfes. I used a server a friend's friend of mine hosted for a long time before setting up my own and most of the time I got the feeling the users really where a bit jealous of the admins in their own little Kingdom. Now, discord has given all of those people the power to create a kingdom of their own with the press of a button, running somewhere in a datacenter without the involvement it took before. Don't get me wrong, this point I deem mostly good for the users, abusive admins bullying people where a problem since the bbs times, but the new price is more than I'm willing to pay. I'm just so very, very sad that everyone else is for some reason fine with being bullied by discord instead of someone's older cousin.

Slartie 6y ago

>I also want to add that I want to punch an executive every time someone calls his discord space a "server". It's not a server. As far as I know, they don't even internally use that name, but call it a "guild", which is kind of a bad name in its own right (because not every community using Discord is a "guild" - not even in gaming, since mostly fantasy-MMORPG-style games call their game-internal groups "guilds", other games often use different monikers, "clans" or "corporations" or whatever fits the game world). However, I must admit that it was a genius idea to market the thing to users as a "server", because that invokes the idea of an actual dedicated server as they were typical for earlier Teamspeak/Mumble solutions, which usually was a significant time and money investment. By calling Discord communities "servers", people who switch over from one of these classic self-hosted setups subconsciously think they are now getting the same thing for free that they usually had to pay a significant sum of money for.

f1refly 6y ago
I don't believe anyone who every ran his own voicecomm server has the feeling that he's getting the same thing as before, especially since the operations where a bit more involved. My guess is the terminology is purely for the little guys, the users who never ran a server themselfes. I used a server a friend's friend of mine hosted for a long time before setting up my own and most of the time I got the feeling the users really where a bit jealous of the admins in their own little Kingdom. Now, discord has given all of those people the power to create a kingdom of their own with the press of a button, running somewhere in a datacenter without the involvement it took before. Don't get me wrong, this point I deem mostly good for the users, abusive admins bullying people where a problem since the bbs times, but the new price is more than I'm willing to pay. I'm just so very, very sad that everyone else is for some reason fine with being bullied by discord instead of someone's older cousin.