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You go after Google first, because they have had such dominance the longest. Anybody else would just argue "What about Google?" As friendly as Facebook has bee

You go after Google first, because they have had such dominance the longest. Anybody else would just argue "What about Google?" As friendly as Facebook has been to the republican party, it doesn't surprise me that they aren't first in line to be prosecuted, if ever.

andromeduck 6y ago
Meanwhile at Luxottica... absolutely nothing.
- Firerouge 6y ago
  It would be nice if there were open source prescription lens designing tools, and plans for cnc lens crafters/3d lens printers. A good start would be defining a set of standard lens sizes so people could at least easily find and print replacement frames.
- hef19898 6y ago
  Because Anti-Trust wise Luxottica is less of an issue as long as they don't abuse their market power when it comes to sunglasses. they could, if they did stuff like forcing retailer into certain deals and conditions. But unles sthey do things seem to be fne.
  - TuringNYC 6y ago
    OK. How about this: "Meanwhile <any phone/mobile/internet/health-insurance provider> nothing"
    - AlexandrB 6y ago
      These are all problems, I'm just happy that there's an appetite for anti-trust action at all at the federal level. Let's also not forget that phone service providers already had a round of anti-trust back in 1982[1], though it seems like legislators have forgotten why that occurred and let many of the baby Bells re-merge in recent years. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T#Breakup_and_reformation_(1982–2004) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T#Breakup_and_reformation...
  - andromeduck 6y ago
    They absolutely do. They're the debeers of the glasses industry. They make your glasses, they make your lenses, they run your vision plan/program. Every optician ever has to sign with them to get the standard selection, as does any name brand that wants their brand licenced. But even beyond that, regional monopolies for carriers are somehow okay? I think it's just rent seeking/retributions for favours not rendered.
  - spelunker 6y ago
    I mean do you know how Luxottica acquired Oakley?
    - hef19898 6y ago
      Well, not exactly. If there is something fishy behind it, Luxotcca definetly deserves a clap on the fingers at least.
    - 0xffff2 6y ago
      How did they acquire Oakley? I don't remember any major controversy at the time, and reading a few news articles and Wikipedia, it just reads like any other corporate merger.
      - spelunker 6y ago
        the short story is Oakley wasn't interested in being acquired, but since Luxottica owns most of the sunglasses stores you've heard of, was able to turn the screws on Oakley by refusing to stock their product, causing it's share price to tank and enabled Luxottica to buy Oakley cheap. https://www.forbes.com/sites/agoodman/2014/07/16/theres-more-to-ray-ban-and-oakley-than-meets-the-eye/#23be7fd622cd https://www.forbes.com/sites/agoodman/2014/07/16/theres-more...
        hef19898 6y ago
        Which is shitty behavior. Thanks for mentioning it.
      - AlexandrB 6y ago
        > Luxottica purchased Sunglass Hut in early 2001. It promptly told Oakley it wanted to pay significantly lower wholesale prices or it would reduce its orders and push its own brands instead. > Within months, Oakley acknowledged to shareholders that the talks hadn't gone well and that Luxottica was slashing its orders. > The company's stock immediately lost more than a third of its value. https://boingboing.net/2019/03/12/luxottica.html https://boingboing.net/2019/03/12/luxottica.html The fact that this isn't mentioned on Wikipedia might mean that Luxxotica has been very good at scrubbing their online persona.
- wasdfff 6y ago
  What can the doj do to an Italian company
  - strictnein 6y ago
    Shut down their US operations. Bar them from partnering with US corporations.
tathougies 6y ago
Facebook has been so friendly to the republican party that they immediately blocked sharing of accusations against Joe Biden for impropriety while serving as the Vice President of the United States. Oh I forgot though... simply allowing republicans to speak online is nowadays akin to full on support for the GOP platform.

andromeduck 6y ago

Meanwhile at Luxottica... absolutely nothing.

Firerouge 6y ago
It would be nice if there were open source prescription lens designing tools, and plans for cnc lens crafters/3d lens printers. A good start would be defining a set of standard lens sizes so people could at least easily find and print replacement frames.
hef19898 6y ago
Because Anti-Trust wise Luxottica is less of an issue as long as they don't abuse their market power when it comes to sunglasses. they could, if they did stuff like forcing retailer into certain deals and conditions. But unles sthey do things seem to be fne.
- TuringNYC 6y ago
  OK. How about this: "Meanwhile <any phone/mobile/internet/health-insurance provider> nothing"
  - AlexandrB 6y ago
    These are all problems, I'm just happy that there's an appetite for anti-trust action at all at the federal level. Let's also not forget that phone service providers already had a round of anti-trust back in 1982[1], though it seems like legislators have forgotten why that occurred and let many of the baby Bells re-merge in recent years. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T#Breakup_and_reformation_(1982–2004) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T#Breakup_and_reformation...
- andromeduck 6y ago
  They absolutely do. They're the debeers of the glasses industry. They make your glasses, they make your lenses, they run your vision plan/program. Every optician ever has to sign with them to get the standard selection, as does any name brand that wants their brand licenced. But even beyond that, regional monopolies for carriers are somehow okay? I think it's just rent seeking/retributions for favours not rendered.
- spelunker 6y ago
  I mean do you know how Luxottica acquired Oakley?
  - hef19898 6y ago
    Well, not exactly. If there is something fishy behind it, Luxotcca definetly deserves a clap on the fingers at least.
  - 0xffff2 6y ago
    How did they acquire Oakley? I don't remember any major controversy at the time, and reading a few news articles and Wikipedia, it just reads like any other corporate merger.
    - spelunker 6y ago
      the short story is Oakley wasn't interested in being acquired, but since Luxottica owns most of the sunglasses stores you've heard of, was able to turn the screws on Oakley by refusing to stock their product, causing it's share price to tank and enabled Luxottica to buy Oakley cheap. https://www.forbes.com/sites/agoodman/2014/07/16/theres-more-to-ray-ban-and-oakley-than-meets-the-eye/#23be7fd622cd https://www.forbes.com/sites/agoodman/2014/07/16/theres-more...
      - hef19898 6y ago
        Which is shitty behavior. Thanks for mentioning it.
    - AlexandrB 6y ago
      > Luxottica purchased Sunglass Hut in early 2001. It promptly told Oakley it wanted to pay significantly lower wholesale prices or it would reduce its orders and push its own brands instead. > Within months, Oakley acknowledged to shareholders that the talks hadn't gone well and that Luxottica was slashing its orders. > The company's stock immediately lost more than a third of its value. https://boingboing.net/2019/03/12/luxottica.html https://boingboing.net/2019/03/12/luxottica.html The fact that this isn't mentioned on Wikipedia might mean that Luxxotica has been very good at scrubbing their online persona.
wasdfff 6y ago
What can the doj do to an Italian company
- strictnein 6y ago
  Shut down their US operations. Bar them from partnering with US corporations.

tathougies 6y ago

Facebook has been so friendly to the republican party that they immediately blocked sharing of accusations against Joe Biden for impropriety while serving as the Vice President of the United States. Oh I forgot though... simply allowing republicans to speak online is nowadays akin to full on support for the GOP platform.