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This one was obviously coming. The question is what the specific issues outlined in the lawsuit will be, and what possible remedies are. Prominently allowing

This one was obviously coming. The question is what the specific issues outlined in the lawsuit will be, and what possible remedies are. Prominently allowing search engine choice in Chrome, Android, etc. may be one part of it. Splitting search off from the rest of Google might be another. Regulating search overall might be one but that carries a lot of risks.

tantalor 6y ago
> Prominently allowing search engine choice That's already happening in Europe: https://www.blog.google/around-the-globe/google-europe/update-android-search-providers-europe/ https://www.blog.google/around-the-globe/google-europe/updat... https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/02/google-to-let-eu-users-choose-their-default-search-provider-on-android.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/02/google-to-let-eu-users-choos...
- nojito 6y ago
  They royally screw over DDG https://spreadprivacy.com/search-preference-menu-duckduckgo-elimination/ https://spreadprivacy.com/search-preference-menu-duckduckgo-...
  - sct202 6y ago
    How are tiny names like Info.com and PrivacyWall are able to pay for slots over DDG? PrivacyWall has like 3 people on LinkedIn. https://www.android.com/choicescreen-winners/ https://www.android.com/choicescreen-winners/
    - tantalor 6y ago
      DDG complains they can't win the auction: search engines who squeeze money out of every last drop of people's personal information (including ISPs and arbitrage players that will participate in next year's auctions) are easily able to outbid search engines like us that respect people's privacy https://spreadprivacy.com/search-preference-menu-auctions/ https://spreadprivacy.com/search-preference-menu-auctions/
- hardtke 6y ago
  Has this reduced search market share for Google in Europe? I suspect not since Google has a high brand loyalty. In fact this complaint may make Google even more profitable by not allowing phone manufacturers to charge the for default placement. I believe it will likely kill the main revenue stream for Mozilla as well.

tantalor 6y ago

> Prominently allowing search engine choice That's already happening in Europe: https://www.blog.google/around-the-globe/google-europe/update-android-search-providers-europe/ https://www.blog.google/around-the-globe/google-europe/updat... https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/02/google-to-let-eu-users-choose-their-default-search-provider-on-android.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/02/google-to-let-eu-users-choos...

nojito 6y ago
They royally screw over DDG https://spreadprivacy.com/search-preference-menu-duckduckgo-elimination/ https://spreadprivacy.com/search-preference-menu-duckduckgo-...
- sct202 6y ago
  How are tiny names like Info.com and PrivacyWall are able to pay for slots over DDG? PrivacyWall has like 3 people on LinkedIn. https://www.android.com/choicescreen-winners/ https://www.android.com/choicescreen-winners/
  - tantalor 6y ago
    DDG complains they can't win the auction: search engines who squeeze money out of every last drop of people's personal information (including ISPs and arbitrage players that will participate in next year's auctions) are easily able to outbid search engines like us that respect people's privacy https://spreadprivacy.com/search-preference-menu-auctions/ https://spreadprivacy.com/search-preference-menu-auctions/
hardtke 6y ago
Has this reduced search market share for Google in Europe? I suspect not since Google has a high brand loyalty. In fact this complaint may make Google even more profitable by not allowing phone manufacturers to charge the for default placement. I believe it will likely kill the main revenue stream for Mozilla as well.