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End of Life for Azure Notebooks
- vikramkr 6y agoIs this EOL for just the "preview" or for the whole thing?
- drej 6y ago"On January 15th, 2021 the Azure Notebooks public preview site will be retired and replaced with integrated services from Visual Studio, Azure, and GitHub. Learn about your options and Microsoft's other notebook experiences at https://notebooks.azure.com/Content/alternatives.html https://notebooks.azure.com/Content/alternatives.html."
- em500 6y agoThey forgot https://colab.research.google.com/ https://colab.research.google.com/. :). But then again, it's a Google service with a fairly niche audience, so you know the deal...
- vikramkr 6y agoSo I haven't ever used this service, so I might not be framing the question correctly - but what I guess I mean is: are the alternative integrated services actually the initially intended final form of the product post preview? Or is the project itself just being cancelled and users being pointed to subpar substitutes - like Google with the trusted contacts thing where they killed the feature and pointed to an inferior alternative in maps as a way to placate users.
- Avalaxy 6y ago> The Azure Notebooks preview is ending on October 9th, 2020 Apparently they already shut down 2 weeks ago. Any word on what's replacing it? Azure Machine Learning notebooks?
- inglor 6y agoJust GitHub codespaces that has built in support for vscode's jupyter notebook support. It's a much more general solution.
- watersb 6y agoHas anyone tried Python notebooks in VSCode Online? I didn't know about GitHub code spaces with Jupyter support.
- larrybud 6y agoAzure ML Notebooks provide pretty similar functionality.
- tomrod 6y agoDarn. I literally just tried these out and liked it okay. Some random UX issues but nothing deal breaking.
- Jugurtha 6y agoI think you'll like our platform[0][1]: - No setup Jupyter notebooks - Collaborative notebook editing - Publish notebook into AppBooks (parametrized notebooks) that allow you to deploy the resulting model, track experiments, etc. This also enables people unfamiliar with Notebooks to use it as an application without being overwhelmed, and tweak models. - Schedule notebooks and see their output live, even if you close the browser. Your notebooks are run on a much beefier machine than when you're in interactive mode. You won't have the problem of a training job where you don't get the result because of a lost connection. - Automatic model detection and saving, parameter/metrics tracking - One click model deployment - Multiple notebook checkpoints (revert back and forth to previous saved versions) Caveat emptor: as you may notice, we're not focusing on embellishing notebooks as we believe, from what we have experienced, that the fact machine learning projects take a long time is not for lack of beautiful stylesheets. We'll tackle these problems at a later time. - [0]: https://iko.ai https://iko.ai - [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/learnmachinelearning/comments/je0pmv/learn_machine_learning_on_ikoai/ https://www.reddit.com/r/learnmachinelearning/comments/je0pm...
- syntaxing 6y agoThe beginning of the end of all these free notebook services scare me. I haven't found any good alternative to Google Colab that allows private notebooks.
- bryanrasmussen 6y agoI find an end of life notice on a git repository weird somehow. I guess it's a notice to start forking, really.
- sushicalculus 6y ago> We deeply value the Azure Notebooks community and all that was created over the past 4 years. The headline and this sentence seem contradictory
- srtjstjsj 6y agoThey value it 6 feet deep.
- gardenrewind 6y agoDid Azure Notebooks have anything proprietary beyond Jupyter notebooks? If not, not a huge deal - can still take away all of your content and rerun elsewhere :)
- asdfman123 6y agoFor everyone who doesn't work in the MS tech stack, this is pretty standard for the company. I get the sense they're taking a "Manhattan project" approach to grabbing cloud share. They find every promising technology they can, and either try to re-implement in their ecosystem or support it. Some of the stuff they're throwing at the wall sticks, and some of it doesn't.
- pjmlp 6y agoTrue, however for old timers, the recurring politics between WinDev and DevDiv are starting to get tiring.
- kace91 6y agoWhat's that? For non-old timers :P
- asdfman123 6y agoMore to the point, how many divs could a WinDev dev if a WinDev could dev divs?
- pjmlp 6y agoWindDev owns Windows and C++ development related tooling, meanwhile DevTools is responsible for .NET and Visual Studio. Since the introduction of .NET, when you seen Microsoft going all .NET, or having a cycle talking about why native is good and .NET should only be for LOB, it reveals which division is winning the political shots. Some examples, Longhorn's failure, only to redo many of its ideas with COM in Vista, which ended up in WinRT. WinRT/UWP looks suspiciously similar to ideas that gave birth to .NET, before it was decided to create a managed runtime instead (Ext-VOS) project. Midori also proved it's capabilities by running part of Bing for a while, but it wasn't enough. Joe Duffy has a remark on its Rustconf keynote, that even when proven wrong and given the opportunity to test drive Midori, the Windows team wasn't willing to change their mind. Then you have them killing C++/CX in name of ISO compatibility, although UWP is anyway Windows only. So now DevDiv has to wait for the day ISO C++ supports the reflection and metaclasses, so that they can replicate the C++/CX tooling experience introduced in 2012.
- crazygringo 6y agoTime for someone to start killedbymicrosoft.com? ;)
- yjftsjthsd-h 6y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24838237 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24838237
- WFHRenaissance 6y agoI used this a few years ago during a time when I NEVER had a stable computer (going to libraries, using a friend's PC, et cetera). Didn't use it much after that, but it saved me in a pinch. RIP.
- howlgarnish 6y agohttps://killedbyms.com/ https://killedbyms.com/ Who's still salty about Microsoft killing Zune and Windows Phone? 0.5 x /s
- InsaneOstrich 6y agoRIP Zune
- pjmlp 6y agoMe, on Windows Phone, still my secondary phone and main one while traveling.
- reiichiroh 6y agoIt’s theft-proof
- lame-robot-hoax 6y agoThere’s actually way less products than I thought would be on there.
- jsnell 6y agoIt's just because nobody has contributed to that site. Microsoft has put two bullets in the back of the head of hundreds of products. Here's a different list: https://www.versionmuseum.com/history-of/discontinued-microsoft-products https://www.versionmuseum.com/history-of/discontinued-micros...
- Meph504 6y agoThat site is a bit inaccurate in itself though, case in point Microsoft Teams Progressive Web App https://www.versionmuseum.com/history-of/discontinued-microsoft-communications-software#s23 https://www.versionmuseum.com/history-of/discontinued-micros... And also, it list things that were consolidated into other apps, I don't know you could say it was killed off, but more moved. (such as Microsoft groups, is just a part of outlook now, and not a standalone app)
- kerng 6y agoIts disappointing and was announced a while ago. I really wish they would have kept it alive much longer... Azure Machine Learning is way more complex and Codespaces not yet available for normal people. Only free alter alternative with private Notebooks is Colab. Paperspace Gradient is awesome, but the free version requires public Notebooks.
- ameliaquining 6y agoVisual Studio Codespaces (part of Azure) exists and you can sign up for it. It's basically the same product as GitHub Codespaces except slightly less tied to GitHub. The reason they don't mention it in this post is because it's being turned down in a few months, after the public launch of GitHub Codespaces.
- Jugurtha 6y agoHi, please see my comment below[0]. We welcome your feedback. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24838011 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24838011
- lallysingh 6y agoUgh, it's like Reader all over again.
- claytongulick 6y agoHmm, I interviewed to be on this team. Was turned down because I'm not super double plus good kubernetes pro and because I didn't want to move to Redmond. The guys I talked to during the process were all pretty cool, hope they land on their feet.
- musicale 6y agoUsually the first time I hear about cool services like this is when they are shutting down. ;-(