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I was following Red with keen interest, waiting for them to add Postgres support. Unfortunately this never happened, I think they got sidetracked by over-enthus

I was following Red with keen interest, waiting for them to add Postgres support. Unfortunately this never happened, I think they got sidetracked by over-enthusiasm for crypto tools and thus lost momentum.

stchacademy 6y ago
I've watching/studying Red for a long time. And it is a very legitimate effort to be honest. However, when trying to do too much at the same time (and attempting to build a full-stack, do-it-all language would surely qualify for that), you can easily get sidetracked. My attempt here is nothing too bloated. I just needed a super-flexible, easy to use (and tweak) programming language for me (automation, templates, typesetting, "quick" scripts and webview-based app publishing). So, I created it. It's by no means "complete" - yet. Although, after months (to years) of hard work, I think it's ready to get a bit more known. At least, my personal goal has been achieved: Arturo is the language I personally use for my everyday scripting. :)
9214 6y ago
Red got sidetracked by an attempt to build local economy based on an ERC-20 token, to be precise: for tipping contributors, funding FOSS projects and helping maintainers, curating high-quality learning materials within community, etc. That didn't pan out in the near term since no-one shared the enthusiasm. Besides, there are only a few active contributors helping the project, others, unfortunately, prefer to watch from afar and wait, or to pick Red apart feature-by-feature for other languages — and TBH I don't know if this is a historical problem with Rebol family or lack of goal-oriented communication from Red's side which would encourage people to participate (e.g. write a Postgres driver).
- libx 6y ago
  I had interest in Rebol and Red, but lost it. Lost the interest because of what you mention, but also because building algorithms with it imply a big cognitive load for me. Since then, I'm very happy with TCL, one of the inspirations for Rebol. Its syntax is regular, it's a professional tool, conservative, i.e. doesn't break code at each new release, has great GUI with Tk, and many other advantages.
rebolek 6y ago
Postgresql needs full IO support which is coming in 0.7.0, next major release. There is development branch with IO so if someone's interested, writing PostgreSQL driver should be possible today.

stchacademy 6y ago

I've watching/studying Red for a long time. And it is a very legitimate effort to be honest. However, when trying to do too much at the same time (and attempting to build a full-stack, do-it-all language would surely qualify for that), you can easily get sidetracked. My attempt here is nothing too bloated. I just needed a super-flexible, easy to use (and tweak) programming language for me (automation, templates, typesetting, "quick" scripts and webview-based app publishing). So, I created it. It's by no means "complete" - yet. Although, after months (to years) of hard work, I think it's ready to get a bit more known. At least, my personal goal has been achieved: Arturo is the language I personally use for my everyday scripting. :)

9214 6y ago

Red got sidetracked by an attempt to build local economy based on an ERC-20 token, to be precise: for tipping contributors, funding FOSS projects and helping maintainers, curating high-quality learning materials within community, etc. That didn't pan out in the near term since no-one shared the enthusiasm. Besides, there are only a few active contributors helping the project, others, unfortunately, prefer to watch from afar and wait, or to pick Red apart feature-by-feature for other languages — and TBH I don't know if this is a historical problem with Rebol family or lack of goal-oriented communication from Red's side which would encourage people to participate (e.g. write a Postgres driver).

libx 6y ago
I had interest in Rebol and Red, but lost it. Lost the interest because of what you mention, but also because building algorithms with it imply a big cognitive load for me. Since then, I'm very happy with TCL, one of the inspirations for Rebol. Its syntax is regular, it's a professional tool, conservative, i.e. doesn't break code at each new release, has great GUI with Tk, and many other advantages.

rebolek 6y ago

Postgresql needs full IO support which is coming in 0.7.0, next major release. There is development branch with IO so if someone's interested, writing PostgreSQL driver should be possible today.