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Australia retaliated and now it is very hard for kiwis to become citizens of Australia or get the same benefits as citizens or permanent residents.

philliphaydon 6y ago
I think that's two different things tho. Alot of kiwis were coming to Australia and going on the dole right away. So alot of the benefits only kick in after residing in the country for minimum 1 year. But the benefits still exist. I was referring to those who were rejected for residency in Australia, gain citizenship in New Zealand, then move to Australia to live/work. I believe if you were born in New Zealand, its still (relatively) easy to get Citizenship in Australia, but if you weren't born in NZ and have NZ citizenship, it's much harder.
- aussiegeek 6y ago
  It's actually very hard for Kiwis to get citizenship, because the special category visa that lets them live here permanently isn't actually permanent residency, and so there isn't a path to citizenship. (Source: Kiwi friend who was trying to get citizenship for himself and his kids who were born here)
  - philliphaydon 6y ago
    Hmmm a few of the kiwis I went to school with all got citizenship.
    - teruakohatu 6y ago
      It changed not long ago.
      - philliphaydon 6y ago
        Ah ok yeah this was like 5-6 years ago. I haven’t lived in Australia for 9 years now so I donno how much has changed. Prob a lot! Lol
- solraph 6y ago
  > So alot of the benefits only kick in after residing in the country for minimum 1 year. What benefits? I'm not aware of any benefits Kiwi's arriving post 2001 get, apart from some reciprocal medical care, and some allowances to buy property and so forth. Actual money-for-nothing benefits, not so much. > I believe if you were born in New Zealand, its still (relatively) easy to get Citizenship in Australia, but if you weren't born in NZ and have NZ citizenship, it's much harder. Assuming we're talking about the Skilled Independent visa (subclass 189) New Zealand stream [0], then it's easier than for people coming from other countries, but I wouldn't say easy. It's also about AUD$4000 per person. [0] https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/skilled-independent-189/new-zealand https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-li...
  - philliphaydon 6y ago
    The dole. I don’t know what you call it in Australia. When you don’t work and government gives you money. It used to be you could apply after landing. But now you need to live in Australia without leaving for 12 months before you can apply. We also can get the baby bonus. My sister got it when her son was born. That was only 2012 I think. Well after 2001... We don’t pay for hospital. And Medicare can only be applied for if you stay for 6 months without leaving for any reason.

philliphaydon 6y ago

I think that's two different things tho. Alot of kiwis were coming to Australia and going on the dole right away. So alot of the benefits only kick in after residing in the country for minimum 1 year. But the benefits still exist. I was referring to those who were rejected for residency in Australia, gain citizenship in New Zealand, then move to Australia to live/work. I believe if you were born in New Zealand, its still (relatively) easy to get Citizenship in Australia, but if you weren't born in NZ and have NZ citizenship, it's much harder.

aussiegeek 6y ago
It's actually very hard for Kiwis to get citizenship, because the special category visa that lets them live here permanently isn't actually permanent residency, and so there isn't a path to citizenship. (Source: Kiwi friend who was trying to get citizenship for himself and his kids who were born here)
- philliphaydon 6y ago
  Hmmm a few of the kiwis I went to school with all got citizenship.
  - teruakohatu 6y ago
    It changed not long ago.
    - philliphaydon 6y ago
      Ah ok yeah this was like 5-6 years ago. I haven’t lived in Australia for 9 years now so I donno how much has changed. Prob a lot! Lol
solraph 6y ago
> So alot of the benefits only kick in after residing in the country for minimum 1 year. What benefits? I'm not aware of any benefits Kiwi's arriving post 2001 get, apart from some reciprocal medical care, and some allowances to buy property and so forth. Actual money-for-nothing benefits, not so much. > I believe if you were born in New Zealand, its still (relatively) easy to get Citizenship in Australia, but if you weren't born in NZ and have NZ citizenship, it's much harder. Assuming we're talking about the Skilled Independent visa (subclass 189) New Zealand stream [0], then it's easier than for people coming from other countries, but I wouldn't say easy. It's also about AUD$4000 per person. [0] https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/skilled-independent-189/new-zealand https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-li...
- philliphaydon 6y ago
  The dole. I don’t know what you call it in Australia. When you don’t work and government gives you money. It used to be you could apply after landing. But now you need to live in Australia without leaving for 12 months before you can apply. We also can get the baby bonus. My sister got it when her son was born. That was only 2012 I think. Well after 2001... We don’t pay for hospital. And Medicare can only be applied for if you stay for 6 months without leaving for any reason.