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you spend too much time online if you think you can start any war over twitter

odomojuli 6y ago
Respectfully, I don't think I'm spending too much time online to be cognizant of the fact that we have an administration that is very much capable of doing so. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/10/trump-almost-sent-tweet-north-korea-imminent-attack https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/10/trump-almost...
- luckylion 6y ago
  Wait, on the one hand there's the perception of "Trump just tweets whatever comes to his mind", and on the other hand he/whoever actually runs it is drafting tweets, they're purposefully leaking these drafts to NK to gather what they'd feel like if that was sent? That doesn't seem to fit together.
  - odomojuli 6y ago
    "That doesn't seem to fit together" is what I have been feeling for 4 years.
  - ben_w 6y ago
    I don’t have the means (or time or interest) to do this analysis myself, but it has been claimed that half that accounts’ tweets are him personally and the other half are a team: http://varianceexplained.org/r/trump-tweets/ http://varianceexplained.org/r/trump-tweets/
    - reaperducer 6y ago
      It’s already been documented that there is a Twitter guy who works closely with Mr. Trump who originates most of the tweets and then gets approval to send them. It was kind of a big deal because he has his own office very close (physically) to the Oval Office. There was a profile of him done a few years ago. I think it was on CBS News.
      - fakedang 6y ago
        Was he a Twitter employee? I just remember it as some WH kid who had a converted closet as an office.
        taejo 6y ago
        "Twitter guy" could mean "person whose job is to post on twitter.com" rather than "person employed by Twitter, Inc."
- rvz 6y ago
  He's not exactly the only one to 'worry' about on Twitter. Here you have the Supreme leader of Iran who 'actually' posted a tweet as a call to violence to 'destroy' another country via a tweet. [0] If Trump tweeted just that or something similar, it would have been removed instantly. But this one and others from the supreme leader of Iran are still publicly available for all to see. But nothing violent here or anything to worry about I guess? [0] https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1263749566744100864 https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1263749566744100864
  - Kaveren 6y ago
    there isn't a tweet you can send that will start a war unless the administration sending it is willing to confirm that is indeed a move they're making. you think diplomats are idiots. that tweet threat isn't even an immediate threat.
  - srtjstjsj 6y ago
    Trump threatening to destroy Iranian cultural sites and sites important to the country itself, not just destroy a regime: https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1213593975732527112?lang=en https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1213593975...
    - rvz 6y ago
      Exactly. Both tweets should be flagged for glorifying violence and threatening behaviour which is against Twitter's ToS. [0] But it seems the 'rules' are enforced more on one person over another. You probably can guess why that is. Downvoters: So these tweets are not signs of threatening behaviour and shouldn't be flagged or don't violate Twitter's ToS? Explain your case. [0] https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/violent-threats-glorification https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/violent-threa...
  - pessimizer 6y ago
    There's pretty reasonable odds that Trump literally murdered Solemani because Soleimani was constantly owning him on Twitter (or more accurately, that Trump said yes to the same set of belligerent Iran war hawks he normally says no to because he recognized the name from Twitter.)
- Kaveren 6y ago
  sorry you just don't understand how the world works. nobody is ever starting a war over twitter, not least because people understand that accounts can be hacked. and the president's twitter account tweeting about a war would mean the president gets a call within 2 minutes. it would never happen. north korea would absolutely never initiate a war over a tweet, they're fully rational. also nice link to an article about a tweet that the president actually wanted to send, as opposed to a hacker tweeting, which would be denied by the white house within 15 minutes.
  - dontcarethrow2 6y ago
    I guess on a tech forum, all the techies like to feel powerful. Also, words have never been taken more serious than before. Im sure you have noticed cancel culture. Now it's say what we like or your next! Stuxnet can/should start wars, your social media app is just that, a social media app, let's not blow too hard.
dang 6y ago
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24835277 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24835277.
- deleted 6y ago
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Respectfully, I don't think I'm spending too much time online to be cognizant of the fact that we have an administration that is very much capable of doing so. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/10/trump-almost-sent-tweet-north-korea-imminent-attack https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/10/trump-almost...

luckylion 6y ago
Wait, on the one hand there's the perception of "Trump just tweets whatever comes to his mind", and on the other hand he/whoever actually runs it is drafting tweets, they're purposefully leaking these drafts to NK to gather what they'd feel like if that was sent? That doesn't seem to fit together.
- odomojuli 6y ago
  "That doesn't seem to fit together" is what I have been feeling for 4 years.
- ben_w 6y ago
  I don’t have the means (or time or interest) to do this analysis myself, but it has been claimed that half that accounts’ tweets are him personally and the other half are a team: http://varianceexplained.org/r/trump-tweets/ http://varianceexplained.org/r/trump-tweets/
  - reaperducer 6y ago
    It’s already been documented that there is a Twitter guy who works closely with Mr. Trump who originates most of the tweets and then gets approval to send them. It was kind of a big deal because he has his own office very close (physically) to the Oval Office. There was a profile of him done a few years ago. I think it was on CBS News.
    - fakedang 6y ago
      Was he a Twitter employee? I just remember it as some WH kid who had a converted closet as an office.
      - taejo 6y ago
        "Twitter guy" could mean "person whose job is to post on twitter.com" rather than "person employed by Twitter, Inc."
rvz 6y ago
He's not exactly the only one to 'worry' about on Twitter. Here you have the Supreme leader of Iran who 'actually' posted a tweet as a call to violence to 'destroy' another country via a tweet. [0] If Trump tweeted just that or something similar, it would have been removed instantly. But this one and others from the supreme leader of Iran are still publicly available for all to see. But nothing violent here or anything to worry about I guess? [0] https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1263749566744100864 https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1263749566744100864
- Kaveren 6y ago
  there isn't a tweet you can send that will start a war unless the administration sending it is willing to confirm that is indeed a move they're making. you think diplomats are idiots. that tweet threat isn't even an immediate threat.
- srtjstjsj 6y ago
  Trump threatening to destroy Iranian cultural sites and sites important to the country itself, not just destroy a regime: https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1213593975732527112?lang=en https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1213593975...
  - rvz 6y ago
    Exactly. Both tweets should be flagged for glorifying violence and threatening behaviour which is against Twitter's ToS. [0] But it seems the 'rules' are enforced more on one person over another. You probably can guess why that is. Downvoters: So these tweets are not signs of threatening behaviour and shouldn't be flagged or don't violate Twitter's ToS? Explain your case. [0] https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/violent-threats-glorification https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/violent-threa...
- pessimizer 6y ago
  There's pretty reasonable odds that Trump literally murdered Solemani because Soleimani was constantly owning him on Twitter (or more accurately, that Trump said yes to the same set of belligerent Iran war hawks he normally says no to because he recognized the name from Twitter.)
Kaveren 6y ago
sorry you just don't understand how the world works. nobody is ever starting a war over twitter, not least because people understand that accounts can be hacked. and the president's twitter account tweeting about a war would mean the president gets a call within 2 minutes. it would never happen. north korea would absolutely never initiate a war over a tweet, they're fully rational. also nice link to an article about a tweet that the president actually wanted to send, as opposed to a hacker tweeting, which would be denied by the white house within 15 minutes.
- dontcarethrow2 6y ago
  I guess on a tech forum, all the techies like to feel powerful. Also, words have never been taken more serious than before. Im sure you have noticed cancel culture. Now it's say what we like or your next! Stuxnet can/should start wars, your social media app is just that, a social media app, let's not blow too hard.

dang 6y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24835277 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24835277.

deleted 6y ago
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