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> In the base case scenario the state would break even in 2042. The government ended up paying over $200k for each job created. It sickens me what people will

by Osiris 6y ago

> In the base case scenario the state would break even in 2042. The government ended up paying over $200k for each job created. It sickens me what people will do to push their own little kingdom of power. This guy wanted to get reelected so he was willing to give away $3 billion of people's hard earned money and screw up hundreds of people's lives (all the students and others that were hired, left better jobs, then got fired).

throwaway0a5e 6y ago
When you put it that way it doesn't actually sound that abnormal or out of line for state politics. States in the Boston-DC corridor are rife with bullshit state police task forces that mostly just collect paychecks, government departments staffed with cronies, etc. etc. They spin up programs that do things and then shut them down and leave people and businesses hanging with similar results to all the people this left hanging. Boondoggles are universal. I really don't see how laundering it through the mechanism of corporate welfare makes it any better or worse than any other boondoggle. It's just a different way of doing things so that the boondoggle can be marketed to a different political demographic.
- bilbo0s 6y ago
  The Boston-DC corridor is extraordinarily wealthy. Wisconsin is now the poorest state in the upper midwest. No one told our corrupt politicians that yes you can do boondoggles, but you shouldn't do rich man boondoggles. We're not rich, and we tried to play like a big shot state, and sit at the high stakes table. Well, now the bill is becoming clear, we're out about $1 billion so far, and people are starting to complain. The time to complain was when we first saw, now ex-, governor Walker go sit down at the big shot table. We should have snatched him back right at that point. We let him make a horrible deal, rife with corrupt payouts to his cronies, on our behalf. That was dumb of us. It's a lesson for other poor states. If you're poor, you're probably corrupt, but come Hell or high water, you cannot allow your corrupt politicians to get you in too deep. It's your taxes that will end up paying both the bills they incur, as well as the pensions they get when they leave office.

by Osiris 6y ago

throwaway0a5e 6y ago

When you put it that way it doesn't actually sound that abnormal or out of line for state politics. States in the Boston-DC corridor are rife with bullshit state police task forces that mostly just collect paychecks, government departments staffed with cronies, etc. etc. They spin up programs that do things and then shut them down and leave people and businesses hanging with similar results to all the people this left hanging. Boondoggles are universal. I really don't see how laundering it through the mechanism of corporate welfare makes it any better or worse than any other boondoggle. It's just a different way of doing things so that the boondoggle can be marketed to a different political demographic.

bilbo0s 6y ago
The Boston-DC corridor is extraordinarily wealthy. Wisconsin is now the poorest state in the upper midwest. No one told our corrupt politicians that yes you can do boondoggles, but you shouldn't do rich man boondoggles. We're not rich, and we tried to play like a big shot state, and sit at the high stakes table. Well, now the bill is becoming clear, we're out about $1 billion so far, and people are starting to complain. The time to complain was when we first saw, now ex-, governor Walker go sit down at the big shot table. We should have snatched him back right at that point. We let him make a horrible deal, rife with corrupt payouts to his cronies, on our behalf. That was dumb of us. It's a lesson for other poor states. If you're poor, you're probably corrupt, but come Hell or high water, you cannot allow your corrupt politicians to get you in too deep. It's your taxes that will end up paying both the bills they incur, as well as the pensions they get when they leave office.