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I'd just like to point out how absolutely terrible that simulated mouse cursor on that site is. Feels very sluggish and weird. Please don't do this.
by Ennea 6y ago
I'd just like to point out how absolutely terrible that simulated mouse cursor on that site is. Feels very sluggish and weird. Please don't do this.
- dheera 6y agoIt's also very alienating. Why is this even possible?
- p1necone 6y agoYou can get current cursor position, and you can render things at arbitrary positions on the screen. Making this not possible would probably unnecessarily restrict your ability to build even actually useful things. Although hiding the real mouse cursor probably shouldn't be allowed without a permission dialog imo.
- dheera 6y agoYep the following part is fine with me, it's hiding the mouse cursor that is alienating. I would have thought it to be OK for a website to pick from a few standard system cursors (pointer, hand, I-bar, move, resize, etc.) but not no cursor.
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- corobo 6y agoIf this gets traction please remember to allow hiding cursor if the user has full screened something! -- person trying to watch a video without a lil pointer in the way
- dheera 6y agoOr maybe the browser should implement hiding the cursor after 10 seconds of inactivity if the user has full-screened something. If a website made your cursor disappear immediately upon full screen that would be freaky, as if you lost control of your machine, thus, I don't think the websites should have this capability.
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- t0astbread 6y agoWhat about browser games (not necessarily fullscreen) that need to grab and hide your cursor to be playable?
- vincnetas 6y agoYes, but you can use custom cursor, including a fully transparent one.
- yoz-y 6y agoWeb now has full 3D engines running in it. You don’t want a mouse cursor flying around when playing Quake.
- shajznnckfke 6y agoThis site breaks other rules too. Zooming out doesn’t make the font smaller, but makes the column narrower while keeping the font the same size, reducing the amount of text per line (the opposite of what I wanted).
- netsharc 6y agoWanted to jump to the comments complain about this. Snark: Apparently anyone can call themselves UX/UI experts nowadays. I guess I shouldn't worry about getting qualifications and just slap that label onto my CV...
- tpxl 6y agoMy pet peeve these days is when people say UX when they mean UI. I understand it's connected, but it's not the same.
- draugadrotten 6y agoThis comment also shows this UX choice distracts from the message. Now we focus on that he's grabbing the mouse from us.
- tenryuu 6y agoYup, I didn't even bother to read the article. I went immediately to the comment section to complain. It's really weird that people actually spend hours and days on implementations like this because they and are seemingly the only people that actually find enjoyment in it. If you were to talk to your friends about it they would probably say "it's cool" but many of us are still going to say "Why?"
- BeniBoy 6y agoThat reminded me of this experiment [1]. Augment your CTR with simulated mouse cursor /s. But yes, the home page is unusable for me too.. [1]: https://javier.xyz/control-user-cursor/ https://javier.xyz/control-user-cursor/
- gmueckl 6y agoI can barely fathom that allowing this has even crossed browser developer's minds. This feature is just evil from the start and every browser feature, no matter how trivial or benign will eventually be abused.
- TeMPOraL 6y ago> This feature is just evil from the start and every browser feature, no matter how trivial or benign will eventually be abused. That's the problem, though. Motivated humans can weaponize anything. We spend too much time trying to stave off the impossible, instead of going after the abusers - which today often are the presumably legitimate businesses, as a lot of feature misuse became standard business practice.
- netsharc 6y agoI'm surprised it hasn't been. Someone should just implement this on an online store, so that your mouse doesn't appear to be over the "Buy now" button, but in actuality the click would register as clicking that button. Or better, the click would cast a vote for the candidate the developer prefers...
- 7786655 6y agoThis page works by hiding the mouse cursor and displaying an image that looks like it. So it's not like the browser developers deliberately added a feature to make this possible.
- mard 6y agoThe cursor in input field at the bottom is blinking too, making user think it's focused when in reality is not. It's quite disappointing that it took a Google UX design lead to come up with something like this.
- capableweb 6y agoDisappointing? At first, I was thinking that this designer was just a junior designer and they didn't know better, maybe learning how to implement designs so it's fine, we can't all be pros for day one. But now when I realize that this was made from someone at Google's UX team, it all makes sense. Interacting with this site feels exactly like interacting with the typical Google property, where all standards and expectations gets thrown out for something that probably looks pretty on the designers screen but is 80% off for everyone else.
- LukaD 6y agoThe site is an absolute usability nightmare. Why can't I have a scrollbar?
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- tenryuu 6y agoThis one's actually a bug https://twitter.com/azumbrunnen_/status/1318493410848890880 https://twitter.com/azumbrunnen_/status/1318493410848890880
- fucknugget 6y agoI was initially distracted by the cursor, thought it was horrible, then tried to read the text but realised I could barely focus on it give the ridiculous size. Just awful.
- metafunctor 6y agoLooks like it's trying to emulate how the cursor works on iPadOS. I can appreciate the experiment, and I think the execution here is quite good (doesn't feel sluggish at all to me). However, I agree that this just isn't something websites should do. On an iPad, the site shows it's own context sensitive cursor below the iPadOS cursor, for extra weirdness.
- hackerman123469 6y agoIt's very sluggish on a large monitor
- metafunctor 6y agoDoesn't seem to be about resolution — it works fine on my 5120 x 2880 monitor (macOS Catalina). I'd guess it's probably to do with hardware acceleration not being used, or something like that.
- Ennea 6y agoRather, no software re-implementation of a cursor will ever feel as fluid as the "hardware cursor". Might also be related to my screen refresh rate of 120 Hz in this case.
- tallanvor 6y agoYes, a lot of people tend to move the mouse down the screen as they're reading. Having the pointer highlighted and then turn into a cursor and keep following your pointer is extremely distracting. I really don't understand what the appeal is.
- theon144 6y agoYeah, I literally couldn't even read the article without switching to Reader Mode. For a UX professional, this sure is fancy but terrible UX.
- pier25 6y agoI agree. Feels super invasive. I just stopped reading after noticing this. It's almost as bad as websites customizing the CSS or scroll bars. Don't do that.