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Justification is "it's okay to punch up, just not punch down"

by umvi 6y ago

User23 6y ago
One might argue that pragmatically being a member of a group that it's unacceptable to punch is superior to being a member of one that it is. For example historically in pretty much every culture the persons of civil and religious officials have been inviolate. The modern USA culture of contempt for leadership is clearly unsustainable and thus it will end. A Chinese colleague told me a joke a few years ago. "An American asked a Chinese, 'how does it feel to not be able to publicly criticize your President?' And the Chinese replied, 'How does it feel to not be able to publicly support yours?'"
- kelnos 6y ago
  > A Chinese colleague told me a joke a few years ago. "An American asked a Chinese, 'how does it feel to not be able to publicly criticize your President?' And the Chinese replied, 'How does it feel to not be able to publicly support yours?'" Gonna put on my pedantic buzzkill hat for a second. I do actually find that joke to be funny, but it hides potential discussion of real differences behind a pithy comment. Being jailed for criticizing your president is much much worse than suffering social backlash for supporting a president that your chosen community has judged to be bad. Depriving someone of their freedom through legal force is not the same thing as people getting mad at you on the internet (even if that anger causes you to get fired). > The modern USA culture of contempt for leadership Give me leaders who aren't contemptuous and then we'll talk. They do exist, on both sides of the aisle, even though they sometimes seem to be in short supply these days.
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BryceOnRice 6y ago
Whites are on track to becoming a minority in basically every Western White nation within 50 years. USA will be much sooner than that. The government, media, Hollywood, academia etc are openly racist in their denigration of Whites, hiring policies favouring non-Whites, public spending programs (500bn for blacks just announced), etc. By many metrics, Whites are down. Many anti-Whites are happily aware of that. Are you sure this is a precedent you want to set? Already I'm seeing many Whites champing at the bit to pull on their gloves and start punching up; and there will be no room for moral condemnation when they do.

Justification is "it's okay to punch up, just not punch down"

by umvi 6y ago

Justification is "it's okay to punch up, just not punch down"

One might argue that pragmatically being a member of a group that it's unacceptable to punch is superior to being a member of one that it is. For example historically in pretty much every culture the persons of civil and religious officials have been inviolate. The modern USA culture of contempt for leadership is clearly unsustainable and thus it will end. A Chinese colleague told me a joke a few years ago. "An American asked a Chinese, 'how does it feel to not be able to publicly criticize your President?' And the Chinese replied, 'How does it feel to not be able to publicly support yours?'"

kelnos 6y ago
> A Chinese colleague told me a joke a few years ago. "An American asked a Chinese, 'how does it feel to not be able to publicly criticize your President?' And the Chinese replied, 'How does it feel to not be able to publicly support yours?'" Gonna put on my pedantic buzzkill hat for a second. I do actually find that joke to be funny, but it hides potential discussion of real differences behind a pithy comment. Being jailed for criticizing your president is much much worse than suffering social backlash for supporting a president that your chosen community has judged to be bad. Depriving someone of their freedom through legal force is not the same thing as people getting mad at you on the internet (even if that anger causes you to get fired). > The modern USA culture of contempt for leadership Give me leaders who aren't contemptuous and then we'll talk. They do exist, on both sides of the aisle, even though they sometimes seem to be in short supply these days.
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BryceOnRice 6y ago

Whites are on track to becoming a minority in basically every Western White nation within 50 years. USA will be much sooner than that. The government, media, Hollywood, academia etc are openly racist in their denigration of Whites, hiring policies favouring non-Whites, public spending programs (500bn for blacks just announced), etc. By many metrics, Whites are down. Many anti-Whites are happily aware of that. Are you sure this is a precedent you want to set? Already I'm seeing many Whites champing at the bit to pull on their gloves and start punching up; and there will be no room for moral condemnation when they do.