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A few thoughts here: 1. Who are all of these people? I've never heard of them. Is this a storm in a teacup, or is the implication of the article that this inci

A few thoughts here: 1. Who are all of these people? I've never heard of them. Is this a storm in a teacup, or is the implication of the article that this incident is a taste of what's to come? 2. The story seems almost too conveniently negative towards Sojwal. As someone who's well on the opposite side of radical intersectionality and radical feminism, this article feels written for people like me who will get outraged at the behaviors of the villain in the story. Makes me suspicious of actually having all of the facts and context here. Seems.. too easy? 3. Ironically, if the current trend continues, Sojwal will soon find herself in a lower intersectionality caste, and will herself be accused of taking space on platforms that are restricted to members of the BIPOC group. She, being an AA and a non-elite PoC, will not be invited.

neffy 6y ago
Form your own opinion here: https://twitter.com/senti_narwhal?lang=en https://twitter.com/senti_narwhal?lang=en I think it's worth observing that mob rule is never good, and racism is actually pretty universal, as are bullies, it's just the target group that changes. But as you point out, the bullies are subject to instant replacement once the mob decides to switch its allegiances.
- aaomidi 6y ago
  And this context: https://twitter.com/amywestervelt/status/1316923479011303424 https://twitter.com/amywestervelt/status/1316923479011303424
Animats 6y ago
Is this a storm in a teacup?" It's a storm within the academic liberal arts community. See [1]. That community has big problems. Once they ran education. Now they're not very influential. Many small liberal arts colleges are going out of business.[1] This sort of thing is a cry for attention. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayre%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayre%27s_law [2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-08/colleges-with-empty-campuses-face-an-uncertain-financial-future https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-08/colleges-...
- thu2111 6y ago
  That would be nice, but seems they're plenty influential as their beliefs and value systems keep spilling out out of universities into the corporate world. This dangerous position that it's OK or even virtuous to be racist towards white people keeps popping up in places it shouldn't, and they keep getting what they want. Yes, we can simply treat the entire academic liberal arts as fundamentally toxic and poisoned by this kind of racial hatred, but that won't stop it spreading short of shutting down their funding completely. Even then they'd just get hired by places culturally allied to them. This sort of story has happened many times before, it's just an unusually clear example. Senti Sojwal could easily be prosecuted for this, as there are laws against racism and she openly admits that she is discriminating against white women, but of course she won't be. The only serious way to put a lid on this would be for Trump to win and then to start systematically prosecuting academics and companies who ban white people from things, under racism laws. Once a bunch of them have lost a lot of money or worse, the actual legal definition of racism might start being respected again.

neffy 6y ago

Form your own opinion here: https://twitter.com/senti_narwhal?lang=en https://twitter.com/senti_narwhal?lang=en I think it's worth observing that mob rule is never good, and racism is actually pretty universal, as are bullies, it's just the target group that changes. But as you point out, the bullies are subject to instant replacement once the mob decides to switch its allegiances.

aaomidi 6y ago
And this context: https://twitter.com/amywestervelt/status/1316923479011303424 https://twitter.com/amywestervelt/status/1316923479011303424

Animats 6y ago

Is this a storm in a teacup?" It's a storm within the academic liberal arts community. See [1]. That community has big problems. Once they ran education. Now they're not very influential. Many small liberal arts colleges are going out of business.[1] This sort of thing is a cry for attention. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayre%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayre%27s_law [2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-08/colleges-with-empty-campuses-face-an-uncertain-financial-future https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-08/colleges-...

thu2111 6y ago
That would be nice, but seems they're plenty influential as their beliefs and value systems keep spilling out out of universities into the corporate world. This dangerous position that it's OK or even virtuous to be racist towards white people keeps popping up in places it shouldn't, and they keep getting what they want. Yes, we can simply treat the entire academic liberal arts as fundamentally toxic and poisoned by this kind of racial hatred, but that won't stop it spreading short of shutting down their funding completely. Even then they'd just get hired by places culturally allied to them. This sort of story has happened many times before, it's just an unusually clear example. Senti Sojwal could easily be prosecuted for this, as there are laws against racism and she openly admits that she is discriminating against white women, but of course she won't be. The only serious way to put a lid on this would be for Trump to win and then to start systematically prosecuting academics and companies who ban white people from things, under racism laws. Once a bunch of them have lost a lot of money or worse, the actual legal definition of racism might start being respected again.