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Other than matrix, what are some other alternatives or upcomers in the messaging field I should try. Matrix still has a high burden of me setting up my own ser

Other than matrix, what are some other alternatives or upcomers in the messaging field I should try. Matrix still has a high burden of me setting up my own server and maintaining it. Till their P2P solution doesnt release, they have their own metadata problem.

olah_1 6y ago
These are all worth keeping tabs on. Ethereum: https://status.im/ https://status.im/ Loki: https://getsession.org/ https://getsession.org/ Gun: https://iris.to/ https://iris.to/ IPFS: https://berty.tech/ https://berty.tech/
est31 6y ago
In addition to what the siblings said, Threema. Doesn't require phone numbers, is end to end encrypted like Signal. https://threema.ch/ https://threema.ch/ Also they announced that they will open source their client.
- senectus1 6y ago
  Long time signal user here, threema looks very interesting and seems to be trucking along quite well
q3k 6y ago
Wire: open source (AGPL server/clients), can self-host, available as a public cloud service (free for user-to-user comms, paid for orga comms). Disclosure: worked for them.
- axaxs 6y ago
  Wire was my favorite...much more featureful than Signal at least when I was testing them a couple years back. They also had some not so nice things to say about the Signal folks, but that's mostly gossip.
avhon1 6y ago
Tox (clients include uTox and qTox) has an... interesting history, but is technically interesting (true p2p), and worked fairly well when I last used it (around 2018). https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore https://github.com/uTox/uTox/ https://github.com/uTox/uTox/ https://github.com/qTox/qTox https://github.com/qTox/qTox
pabs3 6y ago
Take a look at some of the metadata-hiding ones: https://vuvuzela.io/ https://vuvuzela.io/ https://petsymposium.org/2015/papers/vandenhooff-vuvuzela-hotpets2015.pdf https://petsymposium.org/2015/papers/vandenhooff-vuvuzela-ho... https://katzenpost.mixnetworks.org/ https://katzenpost.mixnetworks.org/ https://leap.se/en/about-us/news/2017/katzenpost https://leap.se/en/about-us/news/2017/katzenpost http://web.archive.org/web/20151101081526/https://pond.imperialviolet.org/ http://web.archive.org/web/20151101081526/https://pond.imper...
pabs3 6y ago
ScuttleButt is pretty interesting, even if it uses an utterly flawed data encoding system. https://scuttlebutt.nz/ https://scuttlebutt.nz/ https://librelounge.org/episodes/episode-14-secure-scuttlebutt-with-joey-hess.html https://librelounge.org/episodes/episode-14-secure-scuttlebu...
nichos 6y ago
Briar has good traction, it's p2p https://briarproject.org/ https://briarproject.org/
unicornporn 6y ago
https://getsession.org/ https://getsession.org/ ?

olah_1 6y ago

These are all worth keeping tabs on. Ethereum: https://status.im/ https://status.im/ Loki: https://getsession.org/ https://getsession.org/ Gun: https://iris.to/ https://iris.to/ IPFS: https://berty.tech/ https://berty.tech/

est31 6y ago

In addition to what the siblings said, Threema. Doesn't require phone numbers, is end to end encrypted like Signal. https://threema.ch/ https://threema.ch/ Also they announced that they will open source their client.

senectus1 6y ago
Long time signal user here, threema looks very interesting and seems to be trucking along quite well

q3k 6y ago

Wire: open source (AGPL server/clients), can self-host, available as a public cloud service (free for user-to-user comms, paid for orga comms). Disclosure: worked for them.

axaxs 6y ago
Wire was my favorite...much more featureful than Signal at least when I was testing them a couple years back. They also had some not so nice things to say about the Signal folks, but that's mostly gossip.

avhon1 6y ago

Tox (clients include uTox and qTox) has an... interesting history, but is technically interesting (true p2p), and worked fairly well when I last used it (around 2018). https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore https://github.com/uTox/uTox/ https://github.com/uTox/uTox/ https://github.com/qTox/qTox https://github.com/qTox/qTox

pabs3 6y ago

Take a look at some of the metadata-hiding ones: https://vuvuzela.io/ https://vuvuzela.io/ https://petsymposium.org/2015/papers/vandenhooff-vuvuzela-hotpets2015.pdf https://petsymposium.org/2015/papers/vandenhooff-vuvuzela-ho... https://katzenpost.mixnetworks.org/ https://katzenpost.mixnetworks.org/ https://leap.se/en/about-us/news/2017/katzenpost https://leap.se/en/about-us/news/2017/katzenpost http://web.archive.org/web/20151101081526/https://pond.imperialviolet.org/ http://web.archive.org/web/20151101081526/https://pond.imper...

pabs3 6y ago

ScuttleButt is pretty interesting, even if it uses an utterly flawed data encoding system. https://scuttlebutt.nz/ https://scuttlebutt.nz/ https://librelounge.org/episodes/episode-14-secure-scuttlebutt-with-joey-hess.html https://librelounge.org/episodes/episode-14-secure-scuttlebu...

nichos 6y ago

Briar has good traction, it's p2p https://briarproject.org/ https://briarproject.org/

unicornporn 6y ago

https://getsession.org/ https://getsession.org/ ?