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I cheated on Lichess--once. Story: I got paired with someone rated 400 points higher than me (no idea why). The dude was destroying me, but somewhere in the m

I cheated on Lichess--once. Story: I got paired with someone rated 400 points higher than me (no idea why). The dude was destroying me, but somewhere in the middlegame, he let his guard down and exposed himself to a mate-in-one. For once in my life, I saw the mate and I won. The dude was FURIOUS. He immediately asked for a rematch and I said I had to go. Then the insults came ("chicken shit", etc.). He even messaged me a few times over the course of a few months (same kind of name calling) and challenged me a few times. Eventually, I thought, "You know what will really upset him? If I accept a rematch and win again." So, I accepted one of his challenges and I used a computer. Obviously, he lost and he was FURIOUS again. Not my proudest moment, but I enjoyed it while it was happening. But yeah, regular cheating just kind of takes the joy out of the competition.

sbierwagen 6y ago
>I got paired with someone rated 400 points higher than me (no idea why) If you haven't played in a while, then glicko will give you a wide ratings deviation, and pair you against much stronger or much weaker opponents: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glicko_rating_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glicko_rating_system
- bonzini 6y ago
  Or the guy was tilted and intentionally looked for weaker opponents.
egsmi 6y ago
That has happened to me more than once too. I usually take the rematch because I can often win the second game too, I’ll guess 15% of the time. Almost always the better player is trying an opening trap which is dubious but will cause me to loose in the first 10 moves if I miss it. So I just make really sure to look for tactics extra carefully in the opening. If I survive I can often win. And if I loose I get to learn a new opening trap. :)
autokad 6y ago
on lichess, after every game I use the analysis tool to see all the good moves I missed, and sometimes play out alternate endings. my game has improved a lot because of it, but people get furious with me because I don't accept rematches. If I rematch, I wont have the game fresh in memory and miss the opportunity to learn
SilasX 6y ago
>But yeah, regular cheating just kind of takes the joy out of the competition. Well, as the saying goes, "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em." Maybe we should just move over to computer-assisted human chess and compete that way?
- mjcohen 6y ago
  As in Fritz Leiber's 1962 story "The 64-square Madhouse". https://www.gutenberg.org/files/61213/61213-h/61213-h.htm https://www.gutenberg.org/files/61213/61213-h/61213-h.htm
- dwohnitmok 6y ago
  I thought computers playing by themselves are equal to or better than computer+human pairs now (i.e. centaur chess is dead and humans provide no help but are only a hinderance). Is that true (this is just a half-remembered hunch)? Also even if that's not true, computer-assisted human chess for all but the highest levels of play would still be just "human accepts computer move."

sbierwagen 6y ago

>I got paired with someone rated 400 points higher than me (no idea why) If you haven't played in a while, then glicko will give you a wide ratings deviation, and pair you against much stronger or much weaker opponents: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glicko_rating_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glicko_rating_system

bonzini 6y ago
Or the guy was tilted and intentionally looked for weaker opponents.

egsmi 6y ago

That has happened to me more than once too. I usually take the rematch because I can often win the second game too, I’ll guess 15% of the time. Almost always the better player is trying an opening trap which is dubious but will cause me to loose in the first 10 moves if I miss it. So I just make really sure to look for tactics extra carefully in the opening. If I survive I can often win. And if I loose I get to learn a new opening trap. :)

autokad 6y ago

on lichess, after every game I use the analysis tool to see all the good moves I missed, and sometimes play out alternate endings. my game has improved a lot because of it, but people get furious with me because I don't accept rematches. If I rematch, I wont have the game fresh in memory and miss the opportunity to learn

SilasX 6y ago

>But yeah, regular cheating just kind of takes the joy out of the competition. Well, as the saying goes, "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em." Maybe we should just move over to computer-assisted human chess and compete that way?

mjcohen 6y ago
As in Fritz Leiber's 1962 story "The 64-square Madhouse". https://www.gutenberg.org/files/61213/61213-h/61213-h.htm https://www.gutenberg.org/files/61213/61213-h/61213-h.htm
dwohnitmok 6y ago
I thought computers playing by themselves are equal to or better than computer+human pairs now (i.e. centaur chess is dead and humans provide no help but are only a hinderance). Is that true (this is just a half-remembered hunch)? Also even if that's not true, computer-assisted human chess for all but the highest levels of play would still be just "human accepts computer move."