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I'd say the plan is to mostly ignore them on Linux until they become completely irrelevant or will become a good citizen and upstream their driver. I'm OK with

by shmerl 6y ago

I'd say the plan is to mostly ignore them on Linux until they become completely irrelevant or will become a good citizen and upstream their driver. I'm OK with Nvidia fading on Linux into irrelevance with their blob - good riddance. If they don't care about doing things on Linux properly, Linux users and developers don't need to care about Nvidia. That's been the case for Linux users for quite a while already. Only those who are stuck with CUDA lock-in need to deal with this mess these days. Nouveau developers expressed all this best: > Moral of the story... just get an Intel or AMD board and move on with life. NVIDIA has no interest in supporting open-source, and so if you want to support open-source, pick a company that aligns with this. https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/linux-graphics-x-org-drivers/open-source-nvidia-linux-nouveau/998310-nouveau-persevered-in-2017-for-open-source-nvidia-but-2018-could-be-much-better#post998316 https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/linux-graphics-x-org-d...

franga2000 6y ago
> I'm OK with Nvidia fading on Linux into irrelevance with their blob - good riddance. The vast majority of Linux use is on servers. When servers need GPUs it's usually for machine learning or other computation. Nvidia currently holds almost all of that market. All dropping Nvidia support would accomplish is forcing everyone in that market to switch to Windows. Cloud revenue would drop significantly for Linux companies like RedHat, which would in turn mean they have less spare money to work on desktop distros. So as much as I despise Nvidia, until AMD/RTG get their shit together AND (yes, we need both) Intel's dGPUs come out (and don't suck), we desperately need Nvidia support.
- shmerl 6y ago
  I mentioned above that some are still stuck with CUDA, but for the most part I was talking about desktop Linux users who can for all practical purposes ignore Nvidia today. But in general I agree, the sickening CUDA lock-in situation has to change. AMD and Intel are working on it so things are improving, though slowly.

by shmerl 6y ago

franga2000 6y ago

> I'm OK with Nvidia fading on Linux into irrelevance with their blob - good riddance. The vast majority of Linux use is on servers. When servers need GPUs it's usually for machine learning or other computation. Nvidia currently holds almost all of that market. All dropping Nvidia support would accomplish is forcing everyone in that market to switch to Windows. Cloud revenue would drop significantly for Linux companies like RedHat, which would in turn mean they have less spare money to work on desktop distros. So as much as I despise Nvidia, until AMD/RTG get their shit together AND (yes, we need both) Intel's dGPUs come out (and don't suck), we desperately need Nvidia support.

shmerl 6y ago
I mentioned above that some are still stuck with CUDA, but for the most part I was talking about desktop Linux users who can for all practical purposes ignore Nvidia today. But in general I agree, the sickening CUDA lock-in situation has to change. AMD and Intel are working on it so things are improving, though slowly.