> That's a bad sample then. A lay person can definitely file a good provisional patent application. They just need to describe the invention inside and out. I

> That's a bad sample then. A lay person can definitely file a good provisional patent application. They just need to describe the invention inside and out. I just looked up your provisional application (which became public when your non-provisional application was published). It's half a page of text and some pictures. Is this a good example of a solid provisional application written by a layperson?