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The Swedes are best compared to their neighbours Norway and Finland, who share contiguous borders, very similar climate, comparable cultures and similar economi

The Swedes are best compared to their neighbours Norway and Finland, who share contiguous borders, very similar climate, comparable cultures and similar economies. As of today[0]: Norway (pop 5.5Mn): 16,136 confirmed cases, 278 deaths in total, 915 new cases in the last 7 days. Finland (pop 5.2Mn): 13,133 confirmed cases, 351 deaths in total, 1,553 new cases in the past 7 days. Sweden (pop 10.3Mn): 103,200 confirmed cases, 5,918 deaths in total, 3,280 confirmed new cases in the past 7 days. On each of these measures Sweden fares far worse. They have 4x the cases of Finland and Norway combined, 9x the deaths of Finland and Norway combined, 1.5x the new cases of Finland and Norway combined. In absolute and relative terms, Sweden are not worthy of emulation. [0] https://covid19.who.int/region/euro/country/se https://covid19.who.int/region/euro/country/se

chrisco255 6y ago
That did not answer my question, at all. Why can't Sweden also be compared with the UK and Belgium? There's no evidence that coronavirus has a climate-related outcome, save for vitamin D sufficiency, which is only partly related to climate. According to this: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deat... Sweden is at number 13 and falling. Many latin American countries as well as UK, Spain, Belgium, US, and Italy have all fared worse on a per capita basis than Sweden. Coronavirus does not discriminate based on economy. Many first world nations have been hard hit. Coronavirus does not discriminate based on climate, many warm latin american countries are in the top 10. Coronavirus has hit many areas of the US the hardest during the summer. Sweden has never locked down, never mandated masks, and they currently have only a couple dozen hospitalizations. Their deaths, even by your chart, have completely flatlined at near zero for now going on three months.
- neilwilson 6y ago
  A more interesting issue is why Belgium can never be compared to Germany and Netherlands, in the same way as Sweden is constantly compared to Norway and Finland. The way the beliefs are repeated is just as interesting as why the Groupthink has come about in the first place. It’s a worldview. Note that the elderly have to be protected as though they are cattle rather than being told they can choose to protect themselves if they want. Top down vs bottom up
- jacques_chester 6y ago
  Weather does affect spread, because it affects how often folks go outside, where and when they interact with others and so on. In any case, you've fixated on one similarity and missed the larger point. Comparing Sweden to its immediate neighbours is a stronger comparison than any other. No other countries in the world are as comparable, not even close. When you control using that natural experiment, Sweden comes out much worse.
  - jahaja 6y ago
    As a Swede I'm astounded by how Sweden have become a pawn in other people's politics just because we had the "arrogance" of doing something they did not, but here we are. This entire article is false, especially the headline. Anyway, regarding this point; there's wildly different infection-rates etc in different big cities in Sweden as well.

chrisco255 6y ago

That did not answer my question, at all. Why can't Sweden also be compared with the UK and Belgium? There's no evidence that coronavirus has a climate-related outcome, save for vitamin D sufficiency, which is only partly related to climate. According to this: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deat... Sweden is at number 13 and falling. Many latin American countries as well as UK, Spain, Belgium, US, and Italy have all fared worse on a per capita basis than Sweden. Coronavirus does not discriminate based on economy. Many first world nations have been hard hit. Coronavirus does not discriminate based on climate, many warm latin american countries are in the top 10. Coronavirus has hit many areas of the US the hardest during the summer. Sweden has never locked down, never mandated masks, and they currently have only a couple dozen hospitalizations. Their deaths, even by your chart, have completely flatlined at near zero for now going on three months.

neilwilson 6y ago
A more interesting issue is why Belgium can never be compared to Germany and Netherlands, in the same way as Sweden is constantly compared to Norway and Finland. The way the beliefs are repeated is just as interesting as why the Groupthink has come about in the first place. It’s a worldview. Note that the elderly have to be protected as though they are cattle rather than being told they can choose to protect themselves if they want. Top down vs bottom up
jacques_chester 6y ago
Weather does affect spread, because it affects how often folks go outside, where and when they interact with others and so on. In any case, you've fixated on one similarity and missed the larger point. Comparing Sweden to its immediate neighbours is a stronger comparison than any other. No other countries in the world are as comparable, not even close. When you control using that natural experiment, Sweden comes out much worse.
- jahaja 6y ago
  As a Swede I'm astounded by how Sweden have become a pawn in other people's politics just because we had the "arrogance" of doing something they did not, but here we are. This entire article is false, especially the headline. Anyway, regarding this point; there's wildly different infection-rates etc in different big cities in Sweden as well.