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You are going to have to go way back in the medical literature to find many peer reviewed studies on masks. For the same reason it might be hard to find recent

by jjeaff 6y ago

You are going to have to go way back in the medical literature to find many peer reviewed studies on masks. For the same reason it might be hard to find recent studies proving that blood letting is not efficacious. It's basic physics and statistics. A germ of a certain size can only fit through a certain size whole. Masks of any type will reduce the number of particles and thus reduce your chances of contracting. Same goes for your statistical likely hood of spreading to others.

nickthemagicman 6y ago
Like I just said it's clear that masks stop particles. That part is obvious. What's not clear is if applying a plague vector directly on your face with a virus that remains active on surfaces for days is efficacious. Is it efficacious at the community level? It's basic epidemiology. You could be more pro-science and consider these things.
- cyphar 6y ago
  Here's a study from the original SARS epidemic showing that people who had known contact with infected people there was a 70% lower chance of infection when they wore masks[1]. At this point, arguing that masks don't work is absolutely taking the piss -- you only need to look at countries like Japan (which made the political decision to not do widespread lockdowns unlike many other countries in Asia) to see that widespread mask usage clearly works. > Supporting the validity of this finding, there was a dose-response effect: by multivariable analysis, persons who always wore masks had a 70% lower risk of being diagnosed with clinical SARS compared with those who never wore masks, and persons with intermittent mask use had a 60% lower risk. Many persons who wore masks in the community did not use N-95 or similar highly efficient filtration devices, which have been recommended for use in the hospital setting. [1]: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3322931/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3322931/
  - nickthemagicman 6y ago
    Did you read that study? Or did you just read the first paragraph summary? I'm seriously asking. Because if you read that study...which is a SURVEY of 100 or so people.. you would clearly not be using that as your bulletproof evidence that masks work. Did you just read the title? """At this point, arguing that masks don't work is absolutely taking the piss""' Fanatical beliefs with no evidence? Is Corona a cult? I look at countries like Sweden and Norway and know that masks mandates don't work.

by jjeaff 6y ago

nickthemagicman 6y ago

Like I just said it's clear that masks stop particles. That part is obvious. What's not clear is if applying a plague vector directly on your face with a virus that remains active on surfaces for days is efficacious. Is it efficacious at the community level? It's basic epidemiology. You could be more pro-science and consider these things.

cyphar 6y ago
Here's a study from the original SARS epidemic showing that people who had known contact with infected people there was a 70% lower chance of infection when they wore masks[1]. At this point, arguing that masks don't work is absolutely taking the piss -- you only need to look at countries like Japan (which made the political decision to not do widespread lockdowns unlike many other countries in Asia) to see that widespread mask usage clearly works. > Supporting the validity of this finding, there was a dose-response effect: by multivariable analysis, persons who always wore masks had a 70% lower risk of being diagnosed with clinical SARS compared with those who never wore masks, and persons with intermittent mask use had a 60% lower risk. Many persons who wore masks in the community did not use N-95 or similar highly efficient filtration devices, which have been recommended for use in the hospital setting. [1]: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3322931/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3322931/
- nickthemagicman 6y ago
  Did you read that study? Or did you just read the first paragraph summary? I'm seriously asking. Because if you read that study...which is a SURVEY of 100 or so people.. you would clearly not be using that as your bulletproof evidence that masks work. Did you just read the title? """At this point, arguing that masks don't work is absolutely taking the piss""' Fanatical beliefs with no evidence? Is Corona a cult? I look at countries like Sweden and Norway and know that masks mandates don't work.