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The Dacia Spring Electric is now available
- bgorman 6y agoTop speed of 78 miles per hour and a maximum range of 140 miles. This car is not really acceptable for freeway driving.
- oblio 6y agoIt's meant for poor Europeans and rest of the worlders, and definitely not for Tesla buyers. And in this case, for city dwellers. I'm only half joking about the "poor" part. For 80% of the world a car starting at $35k (which is actually about €45k everywhere outside the US, so more like $55-60k) is an expensive car. I'm pretty sure the world average car price is $20k or less.
- rhn_mk1 6y agoThere's no mention of price anywhere in the source material though.
- maitredusoi 6y agoApparently should sub 20,000 £ : https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/dacia/109132/new-2021-dacia-spring-revealed-europes-cheapest-electric-car https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/dacia/109132/new-2021-dacia-sp...
- tonyedgecombe 6y agoCheapest in Europe which means less than the Skoda Citygo which is ~£20,000.
- miskin 6y agoGossips in local EU media says the price is expected to be around 15k EUR before benefits.
- oblio 6y agoI know Dacia and Dacias are cheap. Ain't nobody gonna buy a $50k Dacia. Maybe in 2040, but definitely not now.
- makapuf 6y agoFor us metric using people that's 125km/h and 225km range. Enough for day to day use, esp. in Europe.
- msh 6y agoThat top speed is less than I would be expected to drive on most freeways in Denmark.
- freehunter 6y agoAs an American, our typical freeway speed limit is 70mph. I’m not familiar with the speed limits where this car is designed to be sold/used, are you saying this car is too slow to drive on the freeway? What’s the average speeds for the freeways over there?
- Symbiote 6y agoI assume bgorman is American, as he has quotes the values in miles, even when the website gives them first in metric. 130km/h is the motorway speed limit in many European countries, this car's top speed is 125km/h. It's advertised as a "city car" though, so it's probably fine. In and near cities the limit on motorways is often 110km/h or less anyway.
- spockz 6y agoIn the Netherlands the highway speed limit is now 100km/h to lower CO2 and N emissions. So it would do perfectly fine here.
- miskin 6y agoIn my EU country minimal car speed for highway is 80km/h, so this car would be allowed to drive there. Trucks are limited to max 90km/h on highway here, so only question would be if it is agile enough to be able to safely overtake trucks, or it would just have to follow some truck most of the time... I think that is quite ok for city car.
- x87678r 6y agoMost commuters never drive on the freeway. Especially in Europe where most cities do not have freeways inside the city.
- AdrianB1 6y agoIt is not an this is not a problem for the target audience. As we accept that desktop computers and laptops meet different requirements, small cars for short urban trips are just a different requirement and there is a pretty big market for it.
- rsynnott 6y agoIn this country, at least, the speed limit on motorways is 120km/h, so that should be fine. It’s probably aimed primarily as a city car, in which case the range should also be okay.
- the-dude 6y agoAt least it has a blockchain, so it must be good.
- AlgorithmicTime 6y agoIt's no Dacia Sandero, though.
- JdeBP 6y agoThat's great news, isn't it? (-: As you can see, people didn't get your reference to Top Gear's running joke about the press release announcements ahead of availability of the Sandero, in a comment to a press release announcement of a Dacia car that is "available now" but cannot be ordered until 2021. * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7-7Ps8EWnk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7-7Ps8EWnk
- xiphias2 6y agoI just looked for the announcement video and it felt very bad that the CEO pronounced Dacia wrong so many times in 4 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUwmEXtMYGQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUwmEXtMYGQ At the same time I hope it will be successful on the market.
- Symbiote 6y agoPlenty of companies adapt the pronunciation of brands according to different markets or changing fashions. Porsche has one syllable in Britain, Nissan has a short "i" in Britain but a long one in the USA, Skoda has lost its Š, etc.
- starfallg 6y agoNissan is pronounced Nis-san in Japanese so I would take that (with a short i) as the "correct" pronunciation.
- kwhitefoot 6y agoThe British pronunciation doesn't separate the two syllables in the way that is implied by Nis-san. There is only one s sound in the British English. But I know almost nothing about Japanese so I'm not sure if the Japanese is different.
- starfallg 6y agoMaybe more accurately Ni-SAN as the 's' is quite silent in the first syllable and the stress is on the second. But to be honest, I don't think there is that much difference in pronunciation here in the UK compared to the US and they are both not that far off from the Japanese pronunciation.
- AdrianB1 6y agoDacia is the former name of the country before it was conquered by the Roman empire. It is not a matter of fashion to "adapt" how to correctly pronounce it.
- edhelas 6y agoThe future of French cars… made in China.
- Symbiote 6y agoDacia is a Romanian car manufacturer, now part of Renault Group.
- hocuspocus 6y agoIs the Spring assembled in Romania though? Or is it simply a rebranded City K-ZE? I assume that at the very least, batteries are made in China.
- bogdanu 6y agoNo, it's not, it's just rebranded.
- edhelas 6y ago> The Dacia Spring is based on the Renault City K-ZE produced in China since 2019, which itself is based on the Renault Kwid produced in India and Brazil, and its made on the CMF-A platform.[4].
- Eduard 6y agoCzech
- oblio 6y agoRomanian :-)
- gigel82 6y ago"Good news!" - James May
- siscia 6y agoAny insight about who makes the batteries for those cars?
- hocuspocus 6y agoIt seems they are supplied by CATL, like all western automotive groups that are manufacturing in China.
- AdrianB1 6y agoThe title is wrong, the car was just announced, it is not available NOW. It does not even have a price announced, otherwise I would probably order one right now. I currently don't have a car, but I need one only for short city drives orthogonal on public transportation routes and the range is not a problem, weather protection in the winter is.
- Shivetya 6y agoThe benefit to the BEV marketplace is that it gives consumers a point a reference to compare to the upper ends of the market allowing them quickly decide if vehicles between those two points are offering suitable range at their price point. Originally a Leaf was good for 117 KM EPA/173 KM NEDC. We have cars pushing or exceeding 500km and a few elite in the 700km+. So repeating myself, people can see this Dacia with its 225km range with a 26.8 kWh battery can be had at just under 18k Euros, they can walk up market and at each stage make a determination in their head as to whether the manufacturer is actually offering a good deal. This is going to put more pressure on those who under perform on range as there are a few just over 300km range at very steep price points