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This is really urgent if it goes beyond A/B. Possibly even illegal already under some interpretations. It'd finally make me leave Gmail for sure.

tjoff 6y ago
Why would the outcome of the A/B matter? The writing is on the wall. Maybe get out now rather than waiting for the frog to get cooked.
- defnotashton2 6y ago
  Is the another non chromium browser that can handle more than 5 extensions? Ff extension management is terrible which i find unusable in an age where I need extensions to prevent sites from removing usability features like select, copy, and paste. I'm using brave but I don't fully understand how it's related to chromium and if it's a true fork that they are going to be able to maintain independently. I have many many extensions in brave and an extension manager that let's me toggle them right from a drop down. Any suggestions?
  - coddle-hark 6y ago
    This is about gmail, not chromium, but nevertheless: If you’re not willing to adapt your workflow to something other than chromium, maybe you don’t value your privacy as much as you think you do.
    - defnotashton2 6y ago
      Correct I value basic usability (the ability to use many plug-ins in this case) over privacy. This is why I don't use proton, cause I can't actually get anything done with it.
      - berkes 6y ago
        In that case, I'd urge you to tone down your negative criticism on Firefox. You've already decided that you are not willing to use it over issues you have with it: that choice is fine. Telling others in relevant discussions why you made that choise is, too. No-one asked you why you chose not to use Firefox in a thread about Gmail. Yet you managed to inject your FUD here nonetheless: Firefox can handle 5+ addons just fine. But now some random passersby might get the impression that Firefox is a burning dumpsterfire based on random negative critiques that aren't even in the right place nor true at all. That helps exactly no-one.
akerro 6y ago
>It'd finally make me leave Gmail for sure. If Snowdens leaks didn't make you leave nothing will.
- hnarn 6y ago
  I have used Gmail since you needed an invite to use it and I've never had any other assumption than my e-mails being about as safely tucked away as they would be on a public notice board in a town square, and that Google in addition to this is probably scanning them frenetically to figure out what they, or more specifically their advertisers, can try to sell me. If I need to send something I actually care about I wouldn't use e-mail in the first place. It's a low-effort type of communication with normal people who don't care about security, so I'm not going to waste time making my end of that line of communication an impenetrable bastion.

tjoff 6y ago

Why would the outcome of the A/B matter? The writing is on the wall. Maybe get out now rather than waiting for the frog to get cooked.

defnotashton2 6y ago
Is the another non chromium browser that can handle more than 5 extensions? Ff extension management is terrible which i find unusable in an age where I need extensions to prevent sites from removing usability features like select, copy, and paste. I'm using brave but I don't fully understand how it's related to chromium and if it's a true fork that they are going to be able to maintain independently. I have many many extensions in brave and an extension manager that let's me toggle them right from a drop down. Any suggestions?
- coddle-hark 6y ago
  This is about gmail, not chromium, but nevertheless: If you’re not willing to adapt your workflow to something other than chromium, maybe you don’t value your privacy as much as you think you do.
  - defnotashton2 6y ago
    Correct I value basic usability (the ability to use many plug-ins in this case) over privacy. This is why I don't use proton, cause I can't actually get anything done with it.
    - berkes 6y ago
      In that case, I'd urge you to tone down your negative criticism on Firefox. You've already decided that you are not willing to use it over issues you have with it: that choice is fine. Telling others in relevant discussions why you made that choise is, too. No-one asked you why you chose not to use Firefox in a thread about Gmail. Yet you managed to inject your FUD here nonetheless: Firefox can handle 5+ addons just fine. But now some random passersby might get the impression that Firefox is a burning dumpsterfire based on random negative critiques that aren't even in the right place nor true at all. That helps exactly no-one.

akerro 6y ago

>It'd finally make me leave Gmail for sure. If Snowdens leaks didn't make you leave nothing will.

hnarn 6y ago
I have used Gmail since you needed an invite to use it and I've never had any other assumption than my e-mails being about as safely tucked away as they would be on a public notice board in a town square, and that Google in addition to this is probably scanning them frenetically to figure out what they, or more specifically their advertisers, can try to sell me. If I need to send something I actually care about I wouldn't use e-mail in the first place. It's a low-effort type of communication with normal people who don't care about security, so I'm not going to waste time making my end of that line of communication an impenetrable bastion.