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But isn't H1N1 still present, even though it's limited to few spot like poultry farms? And it's nowhere near as contagious as this Coronavirus? >Conversely, he

But isn't H1N1 still present, even though it's limited to few spot like poultry farms? And it's nowhere near as contagious as this Coronavirus? >Conversely, herd immunity isn't a magic barrier: infections can go beyond herd immunity thresholds in situations where the rate at which infections are happening is high. But this is kind of my point, without human intervention the virus is arguably still around even though not in at the pandemic level. Basically we had "luck" that these virus haven't followed a mutation path that spins them into a pandemic, but they are still around and they infect people. That's why live stock farms are starting to be questioned as a potential factory for pandemics.

petertodd 6y ago
> But isn't H1N1 still present, even though it's limited to few spot like poultry farms? And it's nowhere near as contagious as this Coronavirus? Re-read what I said in my comment: the 2009 H1N1 "Swine flu" pandemic infected an estimated 11-21% of the entire human population. That's what after-the-fact antigen testing found out. The thing is, it turned out to be much less deadly than originally thought. So much so that the WHO was accused of effectively faking a pandemic. This isn't conspiracy theory material either: reputable scientists in the medical community were making these accusations. Leading to, for instance, a EU panel being convened to investigate what went wrong: https://healthcare-in-europe.com/en/news/european-parliament-to-investigate-who-pandemic-scandal.html https://healthcare-in-europe.com/en/news/european-parliament... Far from being limited to a "few poultry farms" since the first 2009 pandemic, (H1N1)pdm09 continues to circulate, and was even the dominant subtype of influenza in the 2018/2019 flu season in the US: https://f1000research.com/articles/8-141 https://f1000research.com/articles/8-141

petertodd 6y ago

> But isn't H1N1 still present, even though it's limited to few spot like poultry farms? And it's nowhere near as contagious as this Coronavirus? Re-read what I said in my comment: the 2009 H1N1 "Swine flu" pandemic infected an estimated 11-21% of the entire human population. That's what after-the-fact antigen testing found out. The thing is, it turned out to be much less deadly than originally thought. So much so that the WHO was accused of effectively faking a pandemic. This isn't conspiracy theory material either: reputable scientists in the medical community were making these accusations. Leading to, for instance, a EU panel being convened to investigate what went wrong: https://healthcare-in-europe.com/en/news/european-parliament-to-investigate-who-pandemic-scandal.html https://healthcare-in-europe.com/en/news/european-parliament... Far from being limited to a "few poultry farms" since the first 2009 pandemic, (H1N1)pdm09 continues to circulate, and was even the dominant subtype of influenza in the 2018/2019 flu season in the US: https://f1000research.com/articles/8-141 https://f1000research.com/articles/8-141