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So you don't know about his endorsement for #SomosTodosBolsonaro and the "fuck you day" and that "in an April rally also attended by Bolsonaro, demonstrators ca

So you don't know about his endorsement for #SomosTodosBolsonaro and the "fuck you day" and that "in an April rally also attended by Bolsonaro, demonstrators called on Sunday for the closing of the Supreme Court and Congress, and a return to authoritarian measures used during Brazil’s 1964-1985 military government"? You don't know that he "ordered the country’s armed forces to commemorate the anniversary of the 1964 coup which brought the military to power."? You don't know about his interference with justice and when Moro presented testimony about it Bolsonaro tweeted that he was "a traitor, a Juda"? You don't know that "As Bolsonaro’s relationship with legislators and the courts has cooled, he has become increasingly dependent on a cadre of advisers in his government who are active or former military"? You don't know that in a Facebook live he said “We have the armed forces at the people’s side: the side of order, democracy, liberty,”? You really don't know any of this? Tell me. if you can, when in France or Germany the President attended a far right rally where they hoped to return to the nazi period...

pelasaco 6y ago
As german I can tell you, you cannot compare the center-right in Brazil with Nazi Period, there is no way to continue a discussion with someone with this arguments, sorry. Edit: specially with a socket puppet: user: notreallytrue created: 8 minutes ago
- notreallytrue 6y ago
  > you cannot compare right in Brazil with Nazi Period Is it true or not that Bolsonaro is against democracy and rallied against it or not? Can you find a moment when French or German president said something like "the military must be back in power"? The last time it happened in Europe was when nazi ruled, or when in Spain the fascist ruled, or when in Greece the fascists ruled etc. etc. I think the comparison is apt. > user: notreallytrue created: 8 minutes ago I know for a fact what happens to you when you go against far right movements, especially south american ones. Better safe than sorry.
  - koolba 6y ago
    It’s the opposite. He’s literally arming the population to prevent a future totalitarian takeover: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/world/americas/guns-brazil-bolsonaro.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/world/americas/guns-brazi... Dictators don’t encourage their people to be able to defend themselves.
    - pelasaco 6y ago
      That's a good point. IMO he is center-right with some influence of liberalism and populist as typical politician in South America. However his govern still open, respecting the diversity, supporting the refugees from Venezuela and respecting the sovereignty of Neighbouring countries.
    - ufo 6y ago
      That's just "2nd ammendment" propaganda that he borrowed from the United States. It's patently clear that he'd go for a totalitarian takeover himself if he could. He just hasn't yet because he did not have the means to do so. https://piaui.folha.uol.com.br/materia/vou-intervir/ https://piaui.folha.uol.com.br/materia/vou-intervir/
      - pelasaco 6y ago
        > It's patently clear that he'd go for a totalitarian takeover himself if he could. He just hasn't yet because he did not have the means to do so. if the democracy there has eroded why he doesn't have the means to do so? What is blocking him to takeover? Case closed.
        romanoderoma 6y ago
        > if the democracy there has eroded why he doesn't have the means to do so? What is blocking him to takeover? That his lies have been exposed. Especially regarding the unlawful exclusion of Lua from presidential elections. But he will try again, that's for sure. Do you really think that previous dictatorship happened overnight?

pelasaco 6y ago

As german I can tell you, you cannot compare the center-right in Brazil with Nazi Period, there is no way to continue a discussion with someone with this arguments, sorry. Edit: specially with a socket puppet: user: notreallytrue created: 8 minutes ago

notreallytrue 6y ago
> you cannot compare right in Brazil with Nazi Period Is it true or not that Bolsonaro is against democracy and rallied against it or not? Can you find a moment when French or German president said something like "the military must be back in power"? The last time it happened in Europe was when nazi ruled, or when in Spain the fascist ruled, or when in Greece the fascists ruled etc. etc. I think the comparison is apt. > user: notreallytrue created: 8 minutes ago I know for a fact what happens to you when you go against far right movements, especially south american ones. Better safe than sorry.
- koolba 6y ago
  It’s the opposite. He’s literally arming the population to prevent a future totalitarian takeover: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/world/americas/guns-brazil-bolsonaro.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/world/americas/guns-brazi... Dictators don’t encourage their people to be able to defend themselves.
  - pelasaco 6y ago
    That's a good point. IMO he is center-right with some influence of liberalism and populist as typical politician in South America. However his govern still open, respecting the diversity, supporting the refugees from Venezuela and respecting the sovereignty of Neighbouring countries.
  - ufo 6y ago
    That's just "2nd ammendment" propaganda that he borrowed from the United States. It's patently clear that he'd go for a totalitarian takeover himself if he could. He just hasn't yet because he did not have the means to do so. https://piaui.folha.uol.com.br/materia/vou-intervir/ https://piaui.folha.uol.com.br/materia/vou-intervir/
    - pelasaco 6y ago
      > It's patently clear that he'd go for a totalitarian takeover himself if he could. He just hasn't yet because he did not have the means to do so. if the democracy there has eroded why he doesn't have the means to do so? What is blocking him to takeover? Case closed.
      - romanoderoma 6y ago
        > if the democracy there has eroded why he doesn't have the means to do so? What is blocking him to takeover? That his lies have been exposed. Especially regarding the unlawful exclusion of Lua from presidential elections. But he will try again, that's for sure. Do you really think that previous dictatorship happened overnight?