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Blatant legal corruption asside (I mean it is the U.S., am I right?), I am more astonished by this tidbit > Still, Harrison raised $57 million in the third qua

Blatant legal corruption asside (I mean it is the U.S., am I right?), I am more astonished by this tidbit > Still, Harrison raised $57 million in the third quarter of this year, dwarfing Graham’s $28 million. How the fuck do you raise 28 or 57 million dollars in 3 months and are state election campaigns THAT expensive??

evgen 6y ago
Lindsay Graham is phenomenally unpopular across the country. Lady G is almost a cartoon version of a quisling Trumpist and is hated by both the left and the right. For quite a long time it was simply assumed that there was nothing that was going to pry him out of a safe seat in deep-red South Carolina. Over the past few months the truth on the ground has shifted significantly against him and (via incredibly easy to use online tools) donations have poured in to Jamie Harrison from around the country. The debate between the two candidates was probably the tipping point for the flood of donations. No, it is probably not possible to spend all of that money in the time left, but it is worth a try and with big campaign coffers it is possible to do high-cost/high-touch voter outreach and get-out-the-vote activity that can have an impact on a race like this. If the money is not spent on this campaign it is available for the next one...
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chrisseaton 6y ago
Note also that the population of the state is just five million people.
meragrin_ 6y ago
According to OpenSecrets.org, it is well out of the norm for him to raise that much money. The democrats brought in a lot of out of state money to win the seat: https://www.opensecrets.org/races/geography?cycle=2020&id=SCS2&spec=N https://www.opensecrets.org/races/geography?cycle=2020&id=SC...
- portpecos 6y ago
  Is there a way to find out from which state(s) that out-of-state money is coming from?
  - RickJWagner 6y ago
    And which industries the money represents?
  - anigbrowl 6y ago
    You could click on the link and read the content there, which includes that very information. For more detailed breakdowns, FEC.gov lets you do exhaustive filtering and has excellent export options.
rrmm 6y ago
A ton of small-dollar donations are flowing into Harrison's campaign as well as plenty from national sources. Graham is not well-liked by either side really.
- meragrin_ 6y ago
  What makes you think the small-dollar donations are from in state? Graham only raised $11 million during his last election. Raising over $85 million for a South Carolina race is nuts. No doubt the vast majority of that is from out of state.
  - rrmm 6y ago
    I didn't mean to imply they were in state. My split up wasn't orthogonal: I just wanted to note the interesting parts were small-money donations (as you note from in and out of state) as well as money from the national committees and PACs.
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peteretep 6y ago
> and are state election campaigns THAT expensive?? I wonder what percentage of that ad spend goes to Facebook. Does Facebook profit more if political discourse if very divisive?
- maddyboo 6y ago
  Yes. As do all other forms of media.
- meragrin_ 6y ago
  Facebook has received at least over $14 million from both campaigns: https://www.opensecrets.org/races/online-ad-spending?cycle=2020&id=SCS2&spec=N https://www.opensecrets.org/races/online-ad-spending?cycle=2...
  - foolmeonce 6y ago
    Which explains why they won't be fixing anything, the millions of bots pretending to be the American people are making them bank.
- slantaclaus 6y ago
  I live in SC and I’ve never seen more advertising done for one candidate in this state than Jamie Harrison
jpalomaki 6y ago
I believe it’s a bit unclear if all this spending makes much sense. On the other hand, money seems to be pouring in and you need to spend it somehow. Not spending it and then loosing would likely make many angry donors.

evgen 6y ago

Lindsay Graham is phenomenally unpopular across the country. Lady G is almost a cartoon version of a quisling Trumpist and is hated by both the left and the right. For quite a long time it was simply assumed that there was nothing that was going to pry him out of a safe seat in deep-red South Carolina. Over the past few months the truth on the ground has shifted significantly against him and (via incredibly easy to use online tools) donations have poured in to Jamie Harrison from around the country. The debate between the two candidates was probably the tipping point for the flood of donations. No, it is probably not possible to spend all of that money in the time left, but it is worth a try and with big campaign coffers it is possible to do high-cost/high-touch voter outreach and get-out-the-vote activity that can have an impact on a race like this. If the money is not spent on this campaign it is available for the next one...

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chrisseaton 6y ago

Note also that the population of the state is just five million people.

meragrin_ 6y ago

According to OpenSecrets.org, it is well out of the norm for him to raise that much money. The democrats brought in a lot of out of state money to win the seat: https://www.opensecrets.org/races/geography?cycle=2020&id=SCS2&spec=N https://www.opensecrets.org/races/geography?cycle=2020&id=SC...

portpecos 6y ago
Is there a way to find out from which state(s) that out-of-state money is coming from?
- RickJWagner 6y ago
  And which industries the money represents?
- anigbrowl 6y ago
  You could click on the link and read the content there, which includes that very information. For more detailed breakdowns, FEC.gov lets you do exhaustive filtering and has excellent export options.

rrmm 6y ago

A ton of small-dollar donations are flowing into Harrison's campaign as well as plenty from national sources. Graham is not well-liked by either side really.

meragrin_ 6y ago
What makes you think the small-dollar donations are from in state? Graham only raised $11 million during his last election. Raising over $85 million for a South Carolina race is nuts. No doubt the vast majority of that is from out of state.
- rrmm 6y ago
  I didn't mean to imply they were in state. My split up wasn't orthogonal: I just wanted to note the interesting parts were small-money donations (as you note from in and out of state) as well as money from the national committees and PACs.
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peteretep 6y ago

> and are state election campaigns THAT expensive?? I wonder what percentage of that ad spend goes to Facebook. Does Facebook profit more if political discourse if very divisive?

maddyboo 6y ago
Yes. As do all other forms of media.
meragrin_ 6y ago
Facebook has received at least over $14 million from both campaigns: https://www.opensecrets.org/races/online-ad-spending?cycle=2020&id=SCS2&spec=N https://www.opensecrets.org/races/online-ad-spending?cycle=2...
- foolmeonce 6y ago
  Which explains why they won't be fixing anything, the millions of bots pretending to be the American people are making them bank.
slantaclaus 6y ago
I live in SC and I’ve never seen more advertising done for one candidate in this state than Jamie Harrison

jpalomaki 6y ago

I believe it’s a bit unclear if all this spending makes much sense. On the other hand, money seems to be pouring in and you need to spend it somehow. Not spending it and then loosing would likely make many angry donors.