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It's a piece of software for scoreboards. Not the Therac-25, nor an airplane.

t0mas88 6y ago
It isn't about the importance of this one database, it's about the cultural issue in most of the sector that the parent comment was pointing out: we far too often blame the user/operator calling them stupid, while every human makes mistake, it's inevitable.
- dmitriid 6y ago
  The Russian joke about investigating is "Punish the innocent, award the uninvolved"
qz2 6y ago
This time. Some days it’s just an on line community that gets burned to the ground. Other days it’s just a service tied into hundred of small businesses that gets burned to the ground. Other says it’s massive financial platform getting burned to the ground. I’m responsible for the latter but the former two have had a much larger impact for many people when they occur. Trivialising the lax administrative discipline because a product isn’t deemed important is a slippery slope. We need to start building competence in to what we do regardless of what it is rather than run on apologies because it’s cheaper.
- wizzwizz4 6y ago
  Prismo is an example of the first: https://fediverse.blog/~/Prismo/on-prismo-data-loss https://fediverse.blog/~/Prismo/on-prismo-data-loss The project never recovered.
ozim 6y ago
Parent is not advocating about going as strict with procedures as operating an airplane. Post is saying about "a bit of aviation safety culture" then it highlights a specific part that would be useful. Safety culture element highlighted is: not blaming a single person but finding out how to prevent accident that happened from happening again. Which is reasonable because you don't want to impose some strict rules that are expensive up front. This way you just introduce measure to prevent same thing in the future, in the context of your project.
- suzakus 6y ago
  Ah, I misread. That's what I get for commenting late at night :( Thanks for clarifying!

It isn't about the importance of this one database, it's about the cultural issue in most of the sector that the parent comment was pointing out: we far too often blame the user/operator calling them stupid, while every human makes mistake, it's inevitable.

dmitriid 6y ago
The Russian joke about investigating is "Punish the innocent, award the uninvolved"

qz2 6y ago

This time. Some days it’s just an on line community that gets burned to the ground. Other days it’s just a service tied into hundred of small businesses that gets burned to the ground. Other says it’s massive financial platform getting burned to the ground. I’m responsible for the latter but the former two have had a much larger impact for many people when they occur. Trivialising the lax administrative discipline because a product isn’t deemed important is a slippery slope. We need to start building competence in to what we do regardless of what it is rather than run on apologies because it’s cheaper.

wizzwizz4 6y ago
Prismo is an example of the first: https://fediverse.blog/~/Prismo/on-prismo-data-loss https://fediverse.blog/~/Prismo/on-prismo-data-loss The project never recovered.

ozim 6y ago

Parent is not advocating about going as strict with procedures as operating an airplane. Post is saying about "a bit of aviation safety culture" then it highlights a specific part that would be useful. Safety culture element highlighted is: not blaming a single person but finding out how to prevent accident that happened from happening again. Which is reasonable because you don't want to impose some strict rules that are expensive up front. This way you just introduce measure to prevent same thing in the future, in the context of your project.

suzakus 6y ago
Ah, I misread. That's what I get for commenting late at night :( Thanks for clarifying!