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You're right. 1) This only changes a form you can print out, sign and mail in or drop off (they're not checking accuracy of signatures this year) 2) This does r

You're right. 1) This only changes a form you can print out, sign and mail in or drop off (they're not checking accuracy of signatures this year) 2) This does reveal lots of PII 3) 4CHAN is now using obituaries to search for dead people who have voted

evan_ 6y ago
you can't just drop it off, you have to return it in a certified ballot envelope that has all of your information on it and one-time codes to avoid forgeries. who cares if they're looking at obits, great, that's fine, every political party has lawyers to do that and they're better at it anyway.
- thallium205 6y ago
  If that's the case why are they offering users the ability to print it out and return it if doing so requires a unique one time ballot envelope?
  - evan_ 6y ago
    Visually impaired voters who can use a screen reader but may have trouble with the paper ballot. Voters with motor issues that make it difficult to fill in a bubble with a pen. Here are the instructions for using the alternate ballot: https://sos.oregon.gov/voting/Pages/instructions-disabilities.aspx https://sos.oregon.gov/voting/Pages/instructions-disabilitie...
- thallium205 6y ago
  >This site allows you to mark, review, and print your ballot materials for return to your county elections office. Their FAQ makes no mention of placing it in a ballot envelope. In fact they offer the ability to print your own from the website. Where are you getting that information? It appears one can type in a name and dob, print a ballot, fill it out, and drop it off. What am I missing that is also not in their FAQ?
  - evan_ 6y ago
    https://sos.oregon.gov/voting/Pages/instructions-disabilities.aspx https://sos.oregon.gov/voting/Pages/instructions-disabilitie... Step 4: Return your Ballot After printing your marked ballot summary: Enclose your ballot in the secrecy envelope. Then place that envelope in the return identification envelope. Sign the ballot declaration and the return identification envelope Is your theory simply that nobody in the Oregon Secretary of State's office thought people might try to cheat?

evan_ 6y ago

you can't just drop it off, you have to return it in a certified ballot envelope that has all of your information on it and one-time codes to avoid forgeries. who cares if they're looking at obits, great, that's fine, every political party has lawyers to do that and they're better at it anyway.

thallium205 6y ago
If that's the case why are they offering users the ability to print it out and return it if doing so requires a unique one time ballot envelope?
- evan_ 6y ago
  Visually impaired voters who can use a screen reader but may have trouble with the paper ballot. Voters with motor issues that make it difficult to fill in a bubble with a pen. Here are the instructions for using the alternate ballot: https://sos.oregon.gov/voting/Pages/instructions-disabilities.aspx https://sos.oregon.gov/voting/Pages/instructions-disabilitie...
thallium205 6y ago
>This site allows you to mark, review, and print your ballot materials for return to your county elections office. Their FAQ makes no mention of placing it in a ballot envelope. In fact they offer the ability to print your own from the website. Where are you getting that information? It appears one can type in a name and dob, print a ballot, fill it out, and drop it off. What am I missing that is also not in their FAQ?
- evan_ 6y ago
  https://sos.oregon.gov/voting/Pages/instructions-disabilities.aspx https://sos.oregon.gov/voting/Pages/instructions-disabilitie... Step 4: Return your Ballot After printing your marked ballot summary: Enclose your ballot in the secrecy envelope. Then place that envelope in the return identification envelope. Sign the ballot declaration and the return identification envelope Is your theory simply that nobody in the Oregon Secretary of State's office thought people might try to cheat?