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We need more papers like this. Very nice. I wonder though if this work would be recognized for academic progress in research institutions? Specifically, is it p

We need more papers like this. Very nice. I wonder though if this work would be recognized for academic progress in research institutions? Specifically, is it publishable in some top-tier journal? (If so, which one?)

lopsidedBrain 6y ago
One of my highest-cited papers didn't pass peer-review. But that's okay. The citations (of the pre-print version) speak for themselves. If papers like these are good enough that new students entering the field use it as a ramp-up resource, they won't hesitate to cite it over and over again when they submit something for peer-review. So journal publication is not the only means of recognition. Speaking of which, computer science is a bit weird in that conference papers tend to have higher visibility than journals, even though the latter still has some of its grandfathered glory. Not all conferences are equal, obviously. Some have a more rigorous submission process than others. But our field definitely carries a bit of skepticism about the value added by journal publishers.
red_admiral 6y ago
In crypto, eprint.iacr.org is where you want your paper to be - it's their own version of arXiv, so I'm almost a bit surprised this isn't published there. If your paper is good, on eprint and you spread the word a bit, then it will get citations - often more than if you publish in a 2nd tier conference - and when it's popular enough then eventually one of the main conferences (journals are less popular in crypto) will accept it in some form. This happened among other things to several of Dan Bernstein's papers (the guy who invented curve25519 among other things).
rrmm 6y ago
They'd be published as review articles or distributed by the academic institution as technical papers or technical reports.
baby 6y ago
I wrote a similar survey a while ago on lattice attacks on RSA[1] and got it rejected from eprint because it was not new research. Anecdotal but there is that. [1]: https://github.com/mimoo/RSA-and-LLL-attacks/blob/master/survey_final.pdf https://github.com/mimoo/RSA-and-LLL-attacks/blob/master/sur... On the other hands there are a number of such "tutorials" being published on eprint, so I think if it's sort of random on a pre-print, then it must be pretty hard to publish this sort of papers in serious journals.

lopsidedBrain 6y ago

One of my highest-cited papers didn't pass peer-review. But that's okay. The citations (of the pre-print version) speak for themselves. If papers like these are good enough that new students entering the field use it as a ramp-up resource, they won't hesitate to cite it over and over again when they submit something for peer-review. So journal publication is not the only means of recognition. Speaking of which, computer science is a bit weird in that conference papers tend to have higher visibility than journals, even though the latter still has some of its grandfathered glory. Not all conferences are equal, obviously. Some have a more rigorous submission process than others. But our field definitely carries a bit of skepticism about the value added by journal publishers.

red_admiral 6y ago

In crypto, eprint.iacr.org is where you want your paper to be - it's their own version of arXiv, so I'm almost a bit surprised this isn't published there. If your paper is good, on eprint and you spread the word a bit, then it will get citations - often more than if you publish in a 2nd tier conference - and when it's popular enough then eventually one of the main conferences (journals are less popular in crypto) will accept it in some form. This happened among other things to several of Dan Bernstein's papers (the guy who invented curve25519 among other things).

rrmm 6y ago

They'd be published as review articles or distributed by the academic institution as technical papers or technical reports.

baby 6y ago

I wrote a similar survey a while ago on lattice attacks on RSA[1] and got it rejected from eprint because it was not new research. Anecdotal but there is that. [1]: https://github.com/mimoo/RSA-and-LLL-attacks/blob/master/survey_final.pdf https://github.com/mimoo/RSA-and-LLL-attacks/blob/master/sur... On the other hands there are a number of such "tutorials" being published on eprint, so I think if it's sort of random on a pre-print, then it must be pretty hard to publish this sort of papers in serious journals.