I don't disagree. But I've also found them to have fewer influxes of non-owners that are there just to say negative things. FWIW, I spend some time in both r/t

I don't disagree. But I've also found them to have fewer influxes of non-owners that are there just to say negative things. FWIW, I spend some time in both r/teslamotors and r/realtesla. There are pretty clear reasons that both exist, and pretty clear reasons for some frustrations on both sides.