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I think you might find The Road to Serfdom interesting: http://www.iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/upldbook43pdf.pdf http://www.iea.org.uk/si

I think you might find The Road to Serfdom interesting: http://www.iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/upldbook43pdf.pdf http://www.iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files... There's a long tradition of the notion of collective responsibility in conservative thought. Even Hayek agreed with this. Stuff like Spooner and Rothbard is very much fringe and likely would have no audience if not for heavy promotion by Koch-like entities.

moralsupply 6y ago
So you mean that all libertarians are "very much fringe" and "Kock-like entities"? Also, Hayek was not a collectivist. Maybe you should read The Road to Serfdom again, as he refers to "collective responsibility" in the localist sense of "collective", not in the sense of a government.
- bleepblorp 6y ago
  Libertarianism is very much a fringe ideology propped up by billionaires who find it useful to promote an ideology that justifies their refusal to give back to the society that made them rich.
  - moralsupply 6y ago
    I wonder if you're a troll or if you really believe in what you wrote
    - bleepblorp 6y ago
      Ignorance is no excuse. Fortunately, it is curable. "There are 609,234 voters registered as Libertarian in the 31 states that report Libertarian registration statistics and Washington, D.C." [0] "Koch-funded think tank offers schools course in libertarianism." [1] "Koch foundation proposal to college: Teach our curriculum, get millions."[2] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_Party_(United_States) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_Party_(United_Stat... [1] https://publicintegrity.org/politics/koch-funded-think-tank-offers-schools-course-in-libertarianism/ https://publicintegrity.org/politics/koch-funded-think-tank-... [2] https://publicintegrity.org/politics/koch-foundation-proposal-to-college-teach-our-curriculum-get-millions/ https://publicintegrity.org/politics/koch-foundation-proposa...

moralsupply 6y ago

So you mean that all libertarians are "very much fringe" and "Kock-like entities"? Also, Hayek was not a collectivist. Maybe you should read The Road to Serfdom again, as he refers to "collective responsibility" in the localist sense of "collective", not in the sense of a government.

bleepblorp 6y ago
Libertarianism is very much a fringe ideology propped up by billionaires who find it useful to promote an ideology that justifies their refusal to give back to the society that made them rich.
- moralsupply 6y ago
  I wonder if you're a troll or if you really believe in what you wrote
  - bleepblorp 6y ago
    Ignorance is no excuse. Fortunately, it is curable. "There are 609,234 voters registered as Libertarian in the 31 states that report Libertarian registration statistics and Washington, D.C." [0] "Koch-funded think tank offers schools course in libertarianism." [1] "Koch foundation proposal to college: Teach our curriculum, get millions."[2] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_Party_(United_States) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_Party_(United_Stat... [1] https://publicintegrity.org/politics/koch-funded-think-tank-offers-schools-course-in-libertarianism/ https://publicintegrity.org/politics/koch-funded-think-tank-... [2] https://publicintegrity.org/politics/koch-foundation-proposal-to-college-teach-our-curriculum-get-millions/ https://publicintegrity.org/politics/koch-foundation-proposa...