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Because waiting for a new invention as part of policy is idiotic. Science does not work a on schedule. A vaccine is not 12 months away, it can be invented tomor

by konjin 6y ago

Because waiting for a new invention as part of policy is idiotic. Science does not work a on schedule. A vaccine is not 12 months away, it can be invented tomorrow, or it can never be invented because it never becomes more than 5% effective.

markdown 6y ago
And so they'll be holed up a while. So? The vast majority of humans never leave their countries their entire lives. If the time comes that they're willing to let their elders die so the wealthiest among them can travel or fOr tHE eCoNOmY, they can always open up their borders. What they have is a choice. They had their elections last night and governing party was re-elected by a landslide, which means the people are happy with their current strategy. > waiting for a new invention as part of policy is idiotic. Saving lives and buying time is not idiotic.
- konjin 6y ago
  >The vast majority of humans never leave their countries their entire lives. The majority of people in New Zealand are 0th of 1st generation immigrants. The majority leave the country at least once a year and have multiple citizenships. >Saving lives and buying time is not idiotic. Yes, Queen Victoria buying time for the invention of penicillin is idiotic.
  - EdwardDiego 6y ago
    You're making some interesting claims there. Got any sources?
    - konjin 6y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_New_Zealand#Recent_years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_New_Zealand#Rec... The 2018 census in particular has 28% of current NZ citizens of being 0th generation citizens. They have something like 30% for people with one 0th generation parent: https://www.stats.govt.nz/assets/Uploads/2018-Census-totals-by-topic/Download-data/2018-census-totals-by-topic-national-highlights.xlsx https://www.stats.govt.nz/assets/Uploads/2018-Census-totals-... So it's closer to 60% of citizen being attached to another country.
onli 6y ago
NZ can wait. If it really turns out that there is no vaccine they can still try different strategies. Until then, this is the best possible option a country could pick.

by konjin 6y ago

markdown 6y ago

And so they'll be holed up a while. So? The vast majority of humans never leave their countries their entire lives. If the time comes that they're willing to let their elders die so the wealthiest among them can travel or fOr tHE eCoNOmY, they can always open up their borders. What they have is a choice. They had their elections last night and governing party was re-elected by a landslide, which means the people are happy with their current strategy. > waiting for a new invention as part of policy is idiotic. Saving lives and buying time is not idiotic.

konjin 6y ago
>The vast majority of humans never leave their countries their entire lives. The majority of people in New Zealand are 0th of 1st generation immigrants. The majority leave the country at least once a year and have multiple citizenships. >Saving lives and buying time is not idiotic. Yes, Queen Victoria buying time for the invention of penicillin is idiotic.
- EdwardDiego 6y ago
  You're making some interesting claims there. Got any sources?
  - konjin 6y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_New_Zealand#Recent_years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_New_Zealand#Rec... The 2018 census in particular has 28% of current NZ citizens of being 0th generation citizens. They have something like 30% for people with one 0th generation parent: https://www.stats.govt.nz/assets/Uploads/2018-Census-totals-by-topic/Download-data/2018-census-totals-by-topic-national-highlights.xlsx https://www.stats.govt.nz/assets/Uploads/2018-Census-totals-... So it's closer to 60% of citizen being attached to another country.

onli 6y ago

NZ can wait. If it really turns out that there is no vaccine they can still try different strategies. Until then, this is the best possible option a country could pick.