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Realistically the could eliminate influenza by staying isolated from the rest of the world, just like they did with covid. Would it be worth it?
by collyw 6y ago
Realistically the could eliminate influenza by staying isolated from the rest of the world, just like they did with covid. Would it be worth it?
- znpy 6y agoIf the alternative is a high risk of death then yes, I guess.
- slimed 6y agoWe have all lost our damn minds.
- fpgaminer 6y agoI mean, they could just mandate flu vaccine for everyone in or entering the country. I can see that being sufficient, without continuing the cumbersome isolation policies post-COVID.
- kennywinker 6y agoFlu vaccines are probably not effective enough, even if 100% of the population was vaccinated. Flu vaccines work, they just don't work perfectly. Many years you'd still get sick, the severity is just attenuated by the flu vaccine. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/vaccineeffect.htm https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/vaccineeffect.htm > recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well-matched to the flu vaccine.
- smcl 6y agoThere's not one single "flu" - when you get a flu vaccination it's good for some particular strains which are (iirc) prevalent or particularly virulent at a given point when they're administered.
- softblush 6y agoIsolated from the rest of the world forever? Probably not worth it
- asdfasgasdgasdg 6y agoUnfortunately influenza has animal reservoirs that COVID-19 does not seem to. It is unlikely we could permanently eliminate it. Maybe a few seasons of reduced numbers, but that's probably the best you could expect.
- wk_end 6y agoPossibly dumb question: since SARS-CoV-2 came from bats originally, are bats not an animal reservoir for it?
- Daniel_sk 6y agoThey are, they are also a reservoir of many other unknown diseases yet to come. But people don't get into close contact with bats as often (unfortunately this time it probably happened from the unsanitary Chinese wet markets).
- lippel82 6y agoIt did not come directly from bats to humans, there was another intermediate host species. We don't know which, pangolins possibly, or minks or some other species, probably in closer contact to humans than bats.
- asdfasgasdgasdg 6y agoRight. The other thing is that (as far as I know) there are no species in which sars-cov-2 is endemic. It may be that (besides humans) there had only ever been one other carrier of this particular virus. There are probably close relatives of sars-cov-2 that are common in bat species, but not necessarily the exact same strain.
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- toomuchtodo 6y agoIt seems unlikely such isolation is going to be needed to eradicate influenza. A universal flu vaccine ("FLU-v") passed phase 1 and 2 clinical trials earlier this year [1] [2], and is moving on to phase 3 trials. [1] https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-03-universal-flu-vaccine-horizon.html https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-03-universal-flu-vaccine... [2] https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=&term=FLU-v&cntry=&state=&city=&dist= https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=&term=FLU-v&cntr...
- dilyevsky 6y agoFlu jumps from animals (birds and pigs) frequently so you will have to do that all the time. Not worth it