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This makes me feel very frustrated. Facebook logic seems "As we have to remove QAnnon posts, we will also remove Extinction Rebellion posts. They are NOT equiv

This makes me feel very frustrated. Facebook logic seems "As we have to remove QAnnon posts, we will also remove Extinction Rebellion posts. They are NOT equivalent! One is a cult that promotes terrorism the other one is a environmentalist group that calls for civil disobedience. One calls for the kidnapping and assassination of politicians, the other one for walk-ins on roads to get media attention. One calls for a war on race the other on improving the environment. Both are in the "extremes" of some political compass but are not equivalent by any sane interpretation. "Enlighted Centrism" is a recurring joke. Facebook is just punching down on the working class and the left because they do not respond to the citizens but to other mega-rich people and corporations. I cannot wait for Facebook to be strongly regulated, and to be forbidded to run an advertisement company with data stolen from its users.

pessimizer 6y ago
What they're doing is censoring anything that upsets anyone (including themselves) because every mainstream political voice has been demanding that they censor people, and threatening to attack the company financially if they don't. I don't want them censoring anyone if they're not then held liable for the content they do publish. If they're going to exercise editorial powers, let them take editorial responsibility. This is not an option they're being given. Instead they've been told that the biggest offense they can commit is failing to delete.
- Nasrudith 6y ago
  That isn't how it works - the platform/publisher duality is a complete fiction. Or would you prefer that filtering spam and viruses makes your email provider a complicit party to any wirefraud conducted using it?
Barrin92 6y ago
>Both are in the "extremes" of some political compass but are not equivalent by any sane interpretation. This seems to have a pretty long tradition in the US, it seems like the political or ethical version of what often happens in science discourse, where creationism and evolution are treated as equally reasonable debate positions and so on. The only yardstick seems to be "how many people are offended" rather than standing by scientific principle or the standards and rules of their platform. If 90% of misinformation and inhumane content comes out of one political camp it should make the people in that camp think, not Facebook.
mirror-mirror 6y ago
This makes me feel very frustrated. Facebook logic seems "As we have to remove QAnnon posts, we will also remove Extinction Rebellion posts. They are NOT equivalent! One is a anti-paedophilia movement the other one is a environmentalist death cult that calls for the end of civilisation. One calls for people to stop having children, the other exchanges messages on social media. One calls for economic decline the other on saving children. Both are in the "extremes" of some political compass but are not equivalent by any sane interpretation.
- scoot_718 6y ago
  MUH BOTH SIDES
- Hokusai 6y ago
  > One is a anti-paedophilia movement That is how some people think, they are demonstrably wrong. There are things that are true and things that are false, not everything is an opinion. The scientific method helps to see that your comment, that is a real feeling of many people, is not true. That people is for sure sharing comments like yours in Facebook, and Facebook is promoting that comments for "engagement" shows how much Facebook needs to be regulated. Splitting Facebook and regulating it is not going to solve the problem overnight, but it is going to be a good step in the right direction.

pessimizer 6y ago

What they're doing is censoring anything that upsets anyone (including themselves) because every mainstream political voice has been demanding that they censor people, and threatening to attack the company financially if they don't. I don't want them censoring anyone if they're not then held liable for the content they do publish. If they're going to exercise editorial powers, let them take editorial responsibility. This is not an option they're being given. Instead they've been told that the biggest offense they can commit is failing to delete.

Nasrudith 6y ago
That isn't how it works - the platform/publisher duality is a complete fiction. Or would you prefer that filtering spam and viruses makes your email provider a complicit party to any wirefraud conducted using it?

Barrin92 6y ago

>Both are in the "extremes" of some political compass but are not equivalent by any sane interpretation. This seems to have a pretty long tradition in the US, it seems like the political or ethical version of what often happens in science discourse, where creationism and evolution are treated as equally reasonable debate positions and so on. The only yardstick seems to be "how many people are offended" rather than standing by scientific principle or the standards and rules of their platform. If 90% of misinformation and inhumane content comes out of one political camp it should make the people in that camp think, not Facebook.

mirror-mirror 6y ago

This makes me feel very frustrated. Facebook logic seems "As we have to remove QAnnon posts, we will also remove Extinction Rebellion posts. They are NOT equivalent! One is a anti-paedophilia movement the other one is a environmentalist death cult that calls for the end of civilisation. One calls for people to stop having children, the other exchanges messages on social media. One calls for economic decline the other on saving children. Both are in the "extremes" of some political compass but are not equivalent by any sane interpretation.

scoot_718 6y ago
MUH BOTH SIDES
Hokusai 6y ago
> One is a anti-paedophilia movement That is how some people think, they are demonstrably wrong. There are things that are true and things that are false, not everything is an opinion. The scientific method helps to see that your comment, that is a real feeling of many people, is not true. That people is for sure sharing comments like yours in Facebook, and Facebook is promoting that comments for "engagement" shows how much Facebook needs to be regulated. Splitting Facebook and regulating it is not going to solve the problem overnight, but it is going to be a good step in the right direction.