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Just a friendly reminder to any neutral readers: Hacker News is hilariously anti-Tesla and you should keep this in mind while reading. Yesterday was a big day

Just a friendly reminder to any neutral readers: Hacker News is hilariously anti-Tesla and you should keep this in mind while reading. Yesterday was a big day for Tesla - massive range increases across all models, including the brand-new Model Y, new interior and features for the Model 3, price drop for Model S. The top 500 posts on Hacker News contain the following unique Tesla stories: * Tesla cancels it's no-questions return policy * Tesla is against Right-To-Repair bill in MA * How to fool Tesla's autopilot with images on the road * Tesla has water cut off at Berlin factory construction site Nor should you expect to find much positive sentiment in thread comments. This level of lopsided negativity forms a feedback loop - there's little incentive for someone with a positive sentiment to expose themselves to this sort of negativity, so they stay quiet or avoid the thread. This causes the thread to become more negative, and provides even less incentive for the next person to write something. This repeats until only people who wish to be trolls or contrarians remain.

tpmx 6y ago
There is no conspiracy against Tesla. People here pretty much universally love new great tech. Extremely few people here work at Tesla competitors. I think most of us are just tired of the endless cycle of hype/lies/exaggerations.
- martythemaniak 6y ago
  An echo chamber is not a conspiracy. It's just an echo chamber.
  - tpmx 6y ago
    For me HN isn't a Tesla echo chamber. I very rarely read about Tesla stuff here. I follow r/RealTesla because I want to follow the company's progress. There's a much higher signal/noise ratio there than in the official subreddit, at least so far. (I also follow r/spacex - pretty high SNR too.)
    - reitzensteinm 6y ago
      Real Tesla is an actual legit anti Tesla echo chamber though, just what parent imagines HN to be. It's probably not a bad place to find varied news stories but you definitely run the risk of subconsciously absorbing the bias.
- jsight 6y ago
  > There is no conspiracy against Tesla Anyone who thinks this didn't follow the whole (now largely extinct) tslaq mess. The websites coordinating things were in plain view. Even today there are public attacks on Tesla and others: https://antiadvertisingadvertising.club/ https://antiadvertisingadvertising.club/ I don't think its the cause of negative comments on Hacker News, though, tbh.
  - unityByFreedom 6y ago
    People haven't stopped shorting Tesla. Its value is predicated on full autonomy and they're nowhere near that. Also, shorting and sharing critical news is not a conspiracy, it's how a healthy market functions. If Elon or his fans were confident in the company's long term value they would simply buy more when people short it, not complain about the shorts.
    - jsight 6y ago
      I said nothing about "shorts". I really don't know the motivation of the people that I referenced, I only see their activities. Obviously "shorts" still exist, with current valuations one would expect plenty of potential profits for them.
      - unityByFreedom 6y ago
        You mentioned TESLAQ, whose messaging was "funded by shorts" according to many Tesla fans. Are you arguing they're not connected or do you not know much about fans' criticisms?
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messick 6y ago
I don’t read the Tesla subreddit, but HN is so full of Musk sycophants that I’m sure a more pro-Tesla place exists.

tpmx 6y ago

There is no conspiracy against Tesla. People here pretty much universally love new great tech. Extremely few people here work at Tesla competitors. I think most of us are just tired of the endless cycle of hype/lies/exaggerations.

martythemaniak 6y ago
An echo chamber is not a conspiracy. It's just an echo chamber.
- tpmx 6y ago
  For me HN isn't a Tesla echo chamber. I very rarely read about Tesla stuff here. I follow r/RealTesla because I want to follow the company's progress. There's a much higher signal/noise ratio there than in the official subreddit, at least so far. (I also follow r/spacex - pretty high SNR too.)
  - reitzensteinm 6y ago
    Real Tesla is an actual legit anti Tesla echo chamber though, just what parent imagines HN to be. It's probably not a bad place to find varied news stories but you definitely run the risk of subconsciously absorbing the bias.
jsight 6y ago
> There is no conspiracy against Tesla Anyone who thinks this didn't follow the whole (now largely extinct) tslaq mess. The websites coordinating things were in plain view. Even today there are public attacks on Tesla and others: https://antiadvertisingadvertising.club/ https://antiadvertisingadvertising.club/ I don't think its the cause of negative comments on Hacker News, though, tbh.
- unityByFreedom 6y ago
  People haven't stopped shorting Tesla. Its value is predicated on full autonomy and they're nowhere near that. Also, shorting and sharing critical news is not a conspiracy, it's how a healthy market functions. If Elon or his fans were confident in the company's long term value they would simply buy more when people short it, not complain about the shorts.
  - jsight 6y ago
    I said nothing about "shorts". I really don't know the motivation of the people that I referenced, I only see their activities. Obviously "shorts" still exist, with current valuations one would expect plenty of potential profits for them.
    - unityByFreedom 6y ago
      You mentioned TESLAQ, whose messaging was "funded by shorts" according to many Tesla fans. Are you arguing they're not connected or do you not know much about fans' criticisms?

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messick 6y ago

I don’t read the Tesla subreddit, but HN is so full of Musk sycophants that I’m sure a more pro-Tesla place exists.