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Feel free to be cautious for any reason you want. But don't expect it of others if you can't provide evidence there is reason to be cautious.
by anoncake 6y ago
Feel free to be cautious for any reason you want. But don't expect it of others if you can't provide evidence there is reason to be cautious.
- ceejayoz 6y agoWe've got plenty of concrete evidence COVID infections can result in long-lasting chronic symptoms. That's sufficient reason to be cautious until we know the rate.
- aga98mtl 6y agoConsidering that there has been tens of millions of people with a covid infection, where are these people with chronic symptoms?
- ceejayoz 6y agohttps://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02598-6 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02598-6 > Symptoms might take a long time to fade; a study posted on the preprint server medRxiv in August followed up on people who had been hospitalized, and found that even a month after being discharged, more than 70% were reporting shortness of breath and 13.5% were still using oxygen at home. > One study of 143 people with COVID-19 discharged from a hospital in Rome found that 53% had reported fatigue and 43% had shortness of breath an average of 2 months after their symptoms started. A study of patients in China showed that 25% had abnormal lung function after 3 months, and that 16% were still fatigued.
- anoncake 6y agoAfter 1 month, 70% report shortness of breath. After 2 months, 43% and after 3 months, we're down to 25%. People are clearly recovering.
- __blockcipher__ 6y agoWe actually don’t have this evidence. If anything we have strong evidence of the opposite. SARS-2 radiological abnormalities resolve in months and this is for hospitalized cases which are by definition more severe than your usual cases. There is really no evidence of what you claim. We’re now 7 months into the major part of this pandemic and people are still stuck citing the fears we all had in April.
- anoncake 6y agoThank you for this post and all the others. Where can I find the evidence you mention?
- __blockcipher__ 6y agoI have a dump of research papers I can send to you. Currently traveling so might take till tomorrow morning
- __blockcipher__ 6y agoSorry for the delay. https://pastebin.com/GeCpFhih https://pastebin.com/GeCpFhih very haphazard but at least will give you pointers to most of the studies
- ceejayoz 6y agohttps://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02598-6 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02598-6 > Evidence from people infected with other coronaviruses suggests that the damage will linger for some. A study published in February recorded long-term lung harm from SARS, which is caused by SARS-CoV-1. Between 2003 and 2018, Peixun Zhang at Peking University People’s Hospital in Beijing and his colleagues tracked the health of 71 people who had been hospitalized with SARS. Even after 15 years, 4.6% still had visible lesions on their lungs, and 38% had reduced diffusion capacity, meaning that their lungs were poor at transferring oxygen into the blood and removing carbon dioxide from it.
- anoncake 6y agoPeople have died of the common cold. Edge cases happen.