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This is not valid anymore once you've used it, it has to be mint condition. Also customized orders are excluded, so that can exclude another big chunk of cars.
by dtech 6y ago
This is not valid anymore once you've used it, it has to be mint condition. Also customized orders are excluded, so that can exclude another big chunk of cars.
- jacquesm 6y agoThat's not correct. They still have to take it back but they can charge you for any wear and tear that was not necessary for you to determine if you wanted to keep the product.
- pmiller2 6y agoHow much wear and tear would that be on an expensive car like a Tesla? 100km of driving? More? Less?
- wolco2 6y agoA case could be made for any usage as you are testing if it will withstand your life style.
- kortilla 6y agoWell then you can just get a new car from a different dealer every 2 weeks and drive a new car for free in perpetuity.
- foepys 6y agoThis law only applies to purchases where you cannot test the product. E.g. ordering by mail, phone, online, etc.
- crispyporkbites 6y agoThis is dumb. In the best case you might get away with a few new cars for 2 weeks at a time, after lengthy battles with dealerships and legal departments. In the worst or most likely case you’ll be stuck with an expensive car, or have to pay the depreciation of a two week old car (massive) as the “wear and tear” part, on top of a bunch of legal fees after you inevitably fight it
- Larrikin 6y agoAlso in practice most people don't try to scam when there is any kind of barrier to prevent doing it long term and at scale. You could probably get many bags of chip every year if you wanted to using their freshness guarantee, but you have to call them and explain the issue to a person. This alone is enough, I can't imagine anyone would fill out the paper work for loans and getting a car multiple times a month
- cyphar 6y agoThere's even an xkcd comic about this <https://xkcd.com/1499/ https://xkcd.com/1499/>.
- WalterBright 6y agoA dealership once tried to sell me as "new" a car that had 2000 miles on the odometer.
- jacquesm 6y agoTypically they can be reset a couple of times so that test drives don't show up when a customer buys a 'new' car. Once it goes over a certain mileage that stops and the car has to be sold as a demo or used car.
- willcipriano 6y agoI believe that is illegal in the US. "A person may not advertise for sale, sell, use, install, or have installed, a device that makes an odometer of a motor vehicle register a mileage different from the mileage the vehicle was driven, as registered by the odometer within the designed tolerance of the manufacturer of the odometer"[0] [0]https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/49/32703 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/49/32703
- rasz 6y agoalso EU since 2018 (surprisingly late, it was illegal in select states prior) https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-8-2018-0235_EN.html https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-8-2018-0235...
- Hamuko 6y agoPretty sure no dealership is required under the law to sell you a vehicle.
- rtsil 6y agoI'm not sure about the other EU countries, but in France at least, the law actually requires a dealership (and any other seller) to sell a vehicle/product/service to any private customer. You either sell your product to anyone or you don't sell it at all, except in rare cases where the law specifically prohibits it e.g. alcohol to minors or, like in the case above, where the customer acts in bad faith.
- rasz 6y ago>where the customer acts in bad faith like abusing returns
- birdyrooster 6y agoNone because Teslas do not depreciate. It was a trick question.
- jccooper 6y agoWhatever would be equivalent to how you would be able to examine were you to buy it in person. The equivalent of a test drive, then, which is not much.
- Hamuko 6y agoThe 14 days also extends to used cars, so not really sure how "mint condition" would even work there.