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>The 14-day cooling off period does not apply to all purchases >Please note that this list is not exhaustive

Gwypaas 6y ago
Certain exceptions from the right of withdrawal should exist, both for distance and off-premises contracts. A right of withdrawal could be inappropriate for example given the nature of particular goods or services. That is the case for example with wine supplied a long time after the conclusion of a contract of a speculative nature where the value is dependent on fluctuations in the market (‘vin en primeur’). The right of withdrawal should neither apply to goods made to the consumer’s specifications or which are clearly personalised such as tailor-made curtains, nor to the supply of fuel, for example, which is a good, by nature inseparably mixed with other items after delivery. The granting of a right of withdrawal to the consumer could also be inappropriate in the case of certain services where the conclusion of the contract implies the setting aside of capacity which, if a right of withdrawal were exercised, the trader may find difficult to fill. This would for example be the case where reservations are made at hotels or concerning holiday cottages or cultural or sporting events. Regarding how much you can test out an item, for example underwear or in ear headphones can't be sent back. Some consumers exercise their right of withdrawal after having used the goods to an extent more than necessary to establish the nature, characteristics and the functioning of the goods. In this case the consumer should not lose the right to withdraw but should be liable for any diminished value of the goods. In order to establish the nature, characteristics and functioning of the goods, the consumer should only handle and inspect them in the same manner as he would be allowed to do in a shop. For example, the consumer should only try on a garment and should not be allowed to wear it. Consequently, the consumer should handle and inspect the goods with due care during the withdrawal period. The obligations of the consumer in the event of withdrawal should not discourage the consumer from exercising his right of withdrawal. https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:32011L0083&qid=1403274218893 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:32...
0xfaded 6y ago
Which is costed into every purchase, and is (only pay of) why we pay more for everything.
- maccard 6y ago
  Is it? Using tech as an example, often I've found that the only difference is currency conversion and sales tax. Take the PS5 for example, it's advertised at $499 or £449. £449 is ~$580, but in the post-brexit years, it could be anywhere between $540 and $630. That number is also the actual price you pay, including sales taxes. If you're in the US, you would pay anywhere between 4% and 13.5% on top, so somewhere between $518 and $566.
  - LgWoodenBadger 6y ago
    The lower bound on a made-somewhere-in-the-US is 0% additional for states with no sales tax.
    - maccard 6y ago
      I wasn't aware of that, thanks, but I don't think it changes the point that the pricing difference is roughly in line with the sales tax difference?
  - kortilla 6y ago
    https://www.thebalance.com/states-without-a-sales-tax-3193305 https://www.thebalance.com/states-without-a-sales-tax-319330...
  - tokamak-teapot 6y ago
    When I first bought a Mac back in about 2008 I did a price comparison as everyone was saying they were more expensive in the UK than US. It turned out this wasn’t true as every model I looked at was almost exactly the same when sales tax / VAT was taken into consideration. I was comparing to California, as that’s where I might have decided to buy instead of the UK.
mpd 6y ago
Exactly. Underwear does not work under this system.
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Certain exceptions from the right of withdrawal should exist, both for distance and off-premises contracts. A right of withdrawal could be inappropriate for example given the nature of particular goods or services. That is the case for example with wine supplied a long time after the conclusion of a contract of a speculative nature where the value is dependent on fluctuations in the market (‘vin en primeur’). The right of withdrawal should neither apply to goods made to the consumer’s specifications or which are clearly personalised such as tailor-made curtains, nor to the supply of fuel, for example, which is a good, by nature inseparably mixed with other items after delivery. The granting of a right of withdrawal to the consumer could also be inappropriate in the case of certain services where the conclusion of the contract implies the setting aside of capacity which, if a right of withdrawal were exercised, the trader may find difficult to fill. This would for example be the case where reservations are made at hotels or concerning holiday cottages or cultural or sporting events. Regarding how much you can test out an item, for example underwear or in ear headphones can't be sent back. Some consumers exercise their right of withdrawal after having used the goods to an extent more than necessary to establish the nature, characteristics and the functioning of the goods. In this case the consumer should not lose the right to withdraw but should be liable for any diminished value of the goods. In order to establish the nature, characteristics and functioning of the goods, the consumer should only handle and inspect them in the same manner as he would be allowed to do in a shop. For example, the consumer should only try on a garment and should not be allowed to wear it. Consequently, the consumer should handle and inspect the goods with due care during the withdrawal period. The obligations of the consumer in the event of withdrawal should not discourage the consumer from exercising his right of withdrawal. https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:32011L0083&qid=1403274218893 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:32...

0xfaded 6y ago

Which is costed into every purchase, and is (only pay of) why we pay more for everything.

maccard 6y ago
Is it? Using tech as an example, often I've found that the only difference is currency conversion and sales tax. Take the PS5 for example, it's advertised at $499 or £449. £449 is ~$580, but in the post-brexit years, it could be anywhere between $540 and $630. That number is also the actual price you pay, including sales taxes. If you're in the US, you would pay anywhere between 4% and 13.5% on top, so somewhere between $518 and $566.
- LgWoodenBadger 6y ago
  The lower bound on a made-somewhere-in-the-US is 0% additional for states with no sales tax.
  - maccard 6y ago
    I wasn't aware of that, thanks, but I don't think it changes the point that the pricing difference is roughly in line with the sales tax difference?
- kortilla 6y ago
  https://www.thebalance.com/states-without-a-sales-tax-3193305 https://www.thebalance.com/states-without-a-sales-tax-319330...
- tokamak-teapot 6y ago
  When I first bought a Mac back in about 2008 I did a price comparison as everyone was saying they were more expensive in the UK than US. It turned out this wasn’t true as every model I looked at was almost exactly the same when sales tax / VAT was taken into consideration. I was comparing to California, as that’s where I might have decided to buy instead of the UK.

mpd 6y ago

Exactly. Underwear does not work under this system.

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