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Notice the careful wording: >policy executives were concerned about the outsize impact of the changes on the right, including the Daily Wire This could be rew

Notice the careful wording: >policy executives were concerned about the outsize impact of the changes on the right, including the Daily Wire This could be reworded: the initial implementation primarily punished right-wing news organizations, especially the Daily Wire, but someone noticed and complained >Engineers redesigned their intended changes so that left-leaning sites like Mother Jones were affected more than previously planned Engineers decided that it would be good to censor far-left propaganda outfits like Mother Jones as well, if they were going to censor the Right, since someone complained, instead of only censoring the Right, so they changed their algorithm to be somewhat more critical of e.g. Mother Jones than the original algorithm, leaving the final implementation ... a black box that censors some political voices and not others. Fast forward three years, to this week. Consider the NY Post Hunter Biden corruption story that hopefully you've heard about by now. Now it's clear Facebook and Twitter have no problem blocking an "individual publisher" founded in 1801 in the final weeks before an election, when anything is permitted to stop the "fascist" Donald Trump from winning another election, if said newspaper publishes information that might make Joe Biden look bad.

threeseed 6y ago
> publishes information that might make Joe Biden look bad There is credible information that this information is a part of a Russian disinformation effort to influence the campaign. Now whether it's true or not is irrelevant. If the FBI has warned this information is suspect and is actively investigating then it is only appropriate for Facebook to err on the side of caution. Especially given we are weeks from an election.
- Fellshard 6y ago
  Yet there is no indication that that is the basis on which the story was initially slowed, and no indication that they apply that consistently.
  - krimeo 6y ago
    The story was suppressed because it materials were allegedly obtained by hackers.
    - Fellshard 6y ago
      That is the initial story Twitter gave. It is not the claim Facebook made.
      - krimeo 6y ago
        You are correct. Facebook claimed it's a bombshell too close to the elections so they need to verify with 3rd party "fact checkers".
- deleted 6y ago
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- gnicholas 6y ago
  > There is credible information that this information is a part of a Russian disinformation effort to influence the campaign. I went looking for this and found this recent CNN article that looked promising. [1] But it does not mention any evidence (credible or otherwise) tying the laptop to Russians. It notes various weaknesses in the story, most notably that the emails were in image form, so contained no headers. But even if the emails were completely fabricated, that doesn't implicate Russians. Can you point me to the credible information you referenced? 1: https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/16/politics/russian-disinformation-investigation/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/16/politics/russian-disinformati...
- pessimizer 6y ago
  > There is credible information that this information is a part of a Russian disinformation effort to influence the campaign. Have you made this up in advance to justify the censorship, or do you have a reference?
  - klyrs 6y ago
    The FBI seems to be taking that allegation seriously enough to investigate https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/world/america-votes/biden-email-episode-illustrates-risk-to-trump-from-giuliani-1.5148659 https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/world/america-votes/biden-emai...
    - syshum 6y ago
      The FBI investigates all allegations of this nature, it is not a statement on if they are credible or not.
- dmingod666 6y ago
  I guess they should also withhold information about the existence of Hunter Biden and that he 'allegedly' worked for a Ukrainian oil company. We don't want the dear leader looking bad right before we place him on the throne. Once he's in, we can brazen it out..
  - syshum 6y ago
    This is the same party that gave us "you have to pass the law to know what is in it..." so... You have to elect them before you know anything about them... Seems like a good way to get the best leaders
- syshum 6y ago
  >>Now whether it's true or not is irrelevant No that is extremely relevant, for it to be "disinformation" it would need to be false If the information is true, then the public should be informed about it, at the point the source is irrelevant. I cant believe you discount or ignore corruption because was reveled by "evil Russia" Some how I believe if the Russians where talking about Trump your sensibilities would be much different.. Not that I believe this NY Post story is some Russian plot because I dont,
alecb 6y ago
Who on earth thinks Mother Jones is a far left propaganda outfit?
- pessimizer 6y ago
  People who think Hillary Clinton was a radical communist.
- klyrs 6y ago
  Whatever my personal feelings on the matter, I consider the president of the us to be irrefutably "mainstream"
- deleted 6y ago
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- hcurtiss 6y ago
  I struggle to define “propaganda,” but Mother Jones is decidedly far left.
- jerkstate 6y ago
  David Corn was the first journalist to directly quote the Steele dossier in the lead-up to the 2016 election, in Mother Jones. We now know that the Steele dossier was propaganda.
  - messick 6y ago
    Lol.
- Vaslo 6y ago
  Literally almost everyone except you. Even my far left friends agree it is far left.
- darthrupert 6y ago
  The same person who hopes that we have read an NY Post smear article about the next president's son, perhaps.

threeseed 6y ago

> publishes information that might make Joe Biden look bad There is credible information that this information is a part of a Russian disinformation effort to influence the campaign. Now whether it's true or not is irrelevant. If the FBI has warned this information is suspect and is actively investigating then it is only appropriate for Facebook to err on the side of caution. Especially given we are weeks from an election.

Fellshard 6y ago
Yet there is no indication that that is the basis on which the story was initially slowed, and no indication that they apply that consistently.
- krimeo 6y ago
  The story was suppressed because it materials were allegedly obtained by hackers.
  - Fellshard 6y ago
    That is the initial story Twitter gave. It is not the claim Facebook made.
    - krimeo 6y ago
      You are correct. Facebook claimed it's a bombshell too close to the elections so they need to verify with 3rd party "fact checkers".
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gnicholas 6y ago
> There is credible information that this information is a part of a Russian disinformation effort to influence the campaign. I went looking for this and found this recent CNN article that looked promising. [1] But it does not mention any evidence (credible or otherwise) tying the laptop to Russians. It notes various weaknesses in the story, most notably that the emails were in image form, so contained no headers. But even if the emails were completely fabricated, that doesn't implicate Russians. Can you point me to the credible information you referenced? 1: https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/16/politics/russian-disinformation-investigation/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/16/politics/russian-disinformati...
pessimizer 6y ago
> There is credible information that this information is a part of a Russian disinformation effort to influence the campaign. Have you made this up in advance to justify the censorship, or do you have a reference?
- klyrs 6y ago
  The FBI seems to be taking that allegation seriously enough to investigate https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/world/america-votes/biden-email-episode-illustrates-risk-to-trump-from-giuliani-1.5148659 https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/world/america-votes/biden-emai...
  - syshum 6y ago
    The FBI investigates all allegations of this nature, it is not a statement on if they are credible or not.
dmingod666 6y ago
I guess they should also withhold information about the existence of Hunter Biden and that he 'allegedly' worked for a Ukrainian oil company. We don't want the dear leader looking bad right before we place him on the throne. Once he's in, we can brazen it out..
- syshum 6y ago
  This is the same party that gave us "you have to pass the law to know what is in it..." so... You have to elect them before you know anything about them... Seems like a good way to get the best leaders
syshum 6y ago
>>Now whether it's true or not is irrelevant No that is extremely relevant, for it to be "disinformation" it would need to be false If the information is true, then the public should be informed about it, at the point the source is irrelevant. I cant believe you discount or ignore corruption because was reveled by "evil Russia" Some how I believe if the Russians where talking about Trump your sensibilities would be much different.. Not that I believe this NY Post story is some Russian plot because I dont,

alecb 6y ago

Who on earth thinks Mother Jones is a far left propaganda outfit?

pessimizer 6y ago
People who think Hillary Clinton was a radical communist.
klyrs 6y ago
Whatever my personal feelings on the matter, I consider the president of the us to be irrefutably "mainstream"
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hcurtiss 6y ago
I struggle to define “propaganda,” but Mother Jones is decidedly far left.
jerkstate 6y ago
David Corn was the first journalist to directly quote the Steele dossier in the lead-up to the 2016 election, in Mother Jones. We now know that the Steele dossier was propaganda.
- messick 6y ago
  Lol.
Vaslo 6y ago
Literally almost everyone except you. Even my far left friends agree it is far left.
darthrupert 6y ago
The same person who hopes that we have read an NY Post smear article about the next president's son, perhaps.