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Agree, I would add, make vocals consistent, ‘a’,‘e’,‘i’,’o’,’u’ should only have one sound per each letter for every case, if we need more vocal sounds then use

by elboru 6y ago

Agree, I would add, make vocals consistent, ‘a’,‘e’,‘i’,’o’,’u’ should only have one sound per each letter for every case, if we need more vocal sounds then use different characters.

namaemuta 6y ago
That happens with Spanish. Most of the time is WYSIWYS (What you see is what you say).
- layoutIfNeeded 6y ago
  It’s called phonemic orthography: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonemic_orthography https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonemic_orthography I’m also from a country with such a language, and as a kid I couldn’t understand the concept of spelling bee competitions in American movies, like, what’s even the point?
  - namaemuta 6y ago
    Thanks, I didn't know it was called that. And yes, I had the same impression about spelling contests
dropofwill 6y ago
Problem with English is that there are a lot of vowels (up to about 20) and the number varies greatly based on dialect. I believe this is an outlier for Indo-European languages.
jcranmer 6y ago
The vowels in the English language: bat, bait, bet, beet, bit, bite, bot, boat, but, butte, bout, boil, book, the 'a' in about (/ə/), baht. That's only in my dialect, and not counting r-colored vowels (which are not r-colored in British dialects!). This list was constructed by building short/long vowel pairs, and then tacking on the weirder vowels afterwards. As you'll notice from the inclusion of the last entry, there is a major dialect issue here. There are four sounds (/æ/, /ɒ/, /ɑ/, /ɔ/) that are usually distributed into three sounds in major dialects, and these arise from short a and short o in written orthography... but which words send their vowels to the different targets varies greatly depending on the dialect. If you pick it according to any one dialect, you're going to get some poor correlation in another dialect. The other obvious issue is that adding new characters is actually difficult in the modern age. Of the sounds I've dropped in above, I can only type in ə and æ without resorting to copy-paste, and that's only because those are accessible with the Compose key. Telling people that you have to use 10 keys not present on their keyboards to write their language is going to be a hard sell. Again, note that English dropped þ as a letter primarily because it wasn't possible to print with printing presses imported from Germany.
- tptacek 6y ago
  Again, note that English dropped þ as a letter primarily because it wasn't possible to print with printing presses imported from Germany. Really? That's a super interesting TIL.

by elboru 6y ago

namaemuta 6y ago

That happens with Spanish. Most of the time is WYSIWYS (What you see is what you say).

layoutIfNeeded 6y ago
It’s called phonemic orthography: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonemic_orthography https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonemic_orthography I’m also from a country with such a language, and as a kid I couldn’t understand the concept of spelling bee competitions in American movies, like, what’s even the point?
- namaemuta 6y ago
  Thanks, I didn't know it was called that. And yes, I had the same impression about spelling contests

dropofwill 6y ago

Problem with English is that there are a lot of vowels (up to about 20) and the number varies greatly based on dialect. I believe this is an outlier for Indo-European languages.

jcranmer 6y ago

The vowels in the English language: bat, bait, bet, beet, bit, bite, bot, boat, but, butte, bout, boil, book, the 'a' in about (/ə/), baht. That's only in my dialect, and not counting r-colored vowels (which are not r-colored in British dialects!). This list was constructed by building short/long vowel pairs, and then tacking on the weirder vowels afterwards. As you'll notice from the inclusion of the last entry, there is a major dialect issue here. There are four sounds (/æ/, /ɒ/, /ɑ/, /ɔ/) that are usually distributed into three sounds in major dialects, and these arise from short a and short o in written orthography... but which words send their vowels to the different targets varies greatly depending on the dialect. If you pick it according to any one dialect, you're going to get some poor correlation in another dialect. The other obvious issue is that adding new characters is actually difficult in the modern age. Of the sounds I've dropped in above, I can only type in ə and æ without resorting to copy-paste, and that's only because those are accessible with the Compose key. Telling people that you have to use 10 keys not present on their keyboards to write their language is going to be a hard sell. Again, note that English dropped þ as a letter primarily because it wasn't possible to print with printing presses imported from Germany.

tptacek 6y ago
Again, note that English dropped þ as a letter primarily because it wasn't possible to print with printing presses imported from Germany. Really? That's a super interesting TIL.