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1) long covid is still being studied, obviously, but there are many cases of it - https://bgr.com/2020/08/21/coronavirus-symptoms-long-covid-study/# https://bgr

1) long covid is still being studied, obviously, but there are many cases of it - https://bgr.com/2020/08/21/coronavirus-symptoms-long-covid-study/# https://bgr.com/2020/08/21/coronavirus-symptoms-long-covid-s... It’s a disease that attacks your organs, there’s going to be damage.

logicchains 6y ago
I don't think anybody's denying it exists. What hasn't been shown is if long-term consequences are more prevalant with covid than with other viral lung infections.
- lima 6y ago
  Studies on long-term consequences of a virus that has been around for <1 year?
  - logicchains 6y ago
    People are claiming "long covid" for a virus that's been around for <1 year, so presumably the prevalence of this "long covid" could be studied?
    - notahacker 6y ago
      Studies and reviews are taking place. The NIHR one suggests prevalence of symptoms lasting over a month in the 10-20% range.[1] As with any other early stage research relying heavily on self reported symptoms, the prevalence figures are not well established and the mechanisms causing it not yet understood, but they don't look like flu. [1]https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m3981 https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m3981, https://evidence.nihr.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Living-with-Covid-Themed-Review.pdf https://evidence.nihr.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Livin...
      - __blockcipher__ 6y ago
        Symptoms over a month and “long term issues” are not the same thing. Severe COVID-19 can cause radiological abnormalities persisting for 3 months, but these heal. Long COVID is unproven and anecdotal and seems to be more likely to be psychosomatic in most but not all cases.
  - anoncake 6y ago
    You can check how much people get better in a few months and extrapolate.
- nickthemagicman 6y ago
  Exactly. Or if it's even caused by Covid and not some underlying pre-existing pathology that ANY disease could trigger.
nickthemagicman 6y ago
There's complications in ..every..single...disease. People have died of papercut complications.. What if 'long covid' is some underlying pre-existing pathology that ANY disease could trigger. So the question becomes are these statistically likely complications and is this directly from the covid virus. The media is feeding you fear about 'long covid' and 'covid toes' and 'covid reinfection' and all of the other sensationalized things about Covid that people eat up like Jerry Springer. Covid-19 and all of it's viral siblings are all solidly respiratory viruses. Anything else you hear is speculative fear based over hyped statistically unlikely complications with unproven conclusions. This whole pandemic is fed off of people who are just fundamentally bad at statistics and interpret every reported sensationalized account as an likely possibility and trust that the news media is unbiased, agenda less, and faithful to the truth. Also...bgr.com is a news outlet not a science source. They make money off of fear. Do you well to look at data and think for yourself.

logicchains 6y ago

I don't think anybody's denying it exists. What hasn't been shown is if long-term consequences are more prevalant with covid than with other viral lung infections.

lima 6y ago
Studies on long-term consequences of a virus that has been around for <1 year?
- logicchains 6y ago
  People are claiming "long covid" for a virus that's been around for <1 year, so presumably the prevalence of this "long covid" could be studied?
  - notahacker 6y ago
    Studies and reviews are taking place. The NIHR one suggests prevalence of symptoms lasting over a month in the 10-20% range.[1] As with any other early stage research relying heavily on self reported symptoms, the prevalence figures are not well established and the mechanisms causing it not yet understood, but they don't look like flu. [1]https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m3981 https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m3981, https://evidence.nihr.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Living-with-Covid-Themed-Review.pdf https://evidence.nihr.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Livin...
    - __blockcipher__ 6y ago
      Symptoms over a month and “long term issues” are not the same thing. Severe COVID-19 can cause radiological abnormalities persisting for 3 months, but these heal. Long COVID is unproven and anecdotal and seems to be more likely to be psychosomatic in most but not all cases.
- anoncake 6y ago
  You can check how much people get better in a few months and extrapolate.
nickthemagicman 6y ago
Exactly. Or if it's even caused by Covid and not some underlying pre-existing pathology that ANY disease could trigger.

nickthemagicman 6y ago

There's complications in ..every..single...disease. People have died of papercut complications.. What if 'long covid' is some underlying pre-existing pathology that ANY disease could trigger. So the question becomes are these statistically likely complications and is this directly from the covid virus. The media is feeding you fear about 'long covid' and 'covid toes' and 'covid reinfection' and all of the other sensationalized things about Covid that people eat up like Jerry Springer. Covid-19 and all of it's viral siblings are all solidly respiratory viruses. Anything else you hear is speculative fear based over hyped statistically unlikely complications with unproven conclusions. This whole pandemic is fed off of people who are just fundamentally bad at statistics and interpret every reported sensationalized account as an likely possibility and trust that the news media is unbiased, agenda less, and faithful to the truth. Also...bgr.com is a news outlet not a science source. They make money off of fear. Do you well to look at data and think for yourself.