3 ms·

Can a publisher demand "user information" in exchange for reading an article, even if it lists 1500 trackers, even if it's part of the contract? No , GDPR forbi

Can a publisher demand "user information" in exchange for reading an article, even if it lists 1500 trackers, even if it's part of the contract? No , GDPR forbids it. That's the gist of the matter. Private information is not tradeable, therefore it's not really property, and certainly not owned by the users since they can't sell it for goods they readily want to acquire. The clause you quote only applies if the private info is necessary for the service rendered. GDPR considers advertising optional, despite the fact that it's crucial for the survival of websites.

viraptor 6y ago
They can sell it. What GDPR prevents is hiding the trade or bundling it into other exchanges. So you're free to say "this access costs $x, you can sell your data for that much on this other service". If you learn through that that people actually are not prepared to sell their data, then GDPR achieved its purpose. If you work on the other side, it may seem hard to handle. But if websites can't survive without trading user data, I'm happy for them to die and get replaced by something with better business model. Global data abuse is not worth it. I guess you could also start a business explicitly selling user data to get access to 3rd party services as a replacement of payment. As long as it's a separate entity, it could work?
- deleted 6y ago
  [deleted]
- cblconfederate 6y ago
  If it s not a tradeable goood how is it sellable then Let alone, you cant demand consent even with self hosted ads. You are obliged to give the content for free even if they dont consent I dont understand why you keep changing the subject
  - viraptor 6y ago
    You're mixing trading data for services you provide with selling the data. GDPR prevents the first, (because it's been abused) but not the second. If you run a data trading business, I can sell you my data, and GDPR will be ok with that.
cnorthwood 6y ago
No, GDPR considers collection, sharing and use of personal data to deliver targeted advertising optional. You can still deliver advertising that doesn't use any personal data.
- cblconfederate 6y ago
  Irrelevant. Users still cant sell their own info consensually, therefore they dont really own it

viraptor 6y ago

They can sell it. What GDPR prevents is hiding the trade or bundling it into other exchanges. So you're free to say "this access costs $x, you can sell your data for that much on this other service". If you learn through that that people actually are not prepared to sell their data, then GDPR achieved its purpose. If you work on the other side, it may seem hard to handle. But if websites can't survive without trading user data, I'm happy for them to die and get replaced by something with better business model. Global data abuse is not worth it. I guess you could also start a business explicitly selling user data to get access to 3rd party services as a replacement of payment. As long as it's a separate entity, it could work?

deleted 6y ago
[deleted]
cblconfederate 6y ago
If it s not a tradeable goood how is it sellable then Let alone, you cant demand consent even with self hosted ads. You are obliged to give the content for free even if they dont consent I dont understand why you keep changing the subject
- viraptor 6y ago
  You're mixing trading data for services you provide with selling the data. GDPR prevents the first, (because it's been abused) but not the second. If you run a data trading business, I can sell you my data, and GDPR will be ok with that.

cnorthwood 6y ago

No, GDPR considers collection, sharing and use of personal data to deliver targeted advertising optional. You can still deliver advertising that doesn't use any personal data.

cblconfederate 6y ago
Irrelevant. Users still cant sell their own info consensually, therefore they dont really own it