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Data sovereignty means my 5,000 seat company will stop using it. Confluence and Jira were already a hard sell due to licence fees. Now Atlassian wants us to put

Data sovereignty means my 5,000 seat company will stop using it. Confluence and Jira were already a hard sell due to licence fees. Now Atlassian wants us to put our trade secrets on AWS or something? Not happening. At least they if we mess up security on a host inside our business it’s not the end of the world. edit: I don’t make the money decisions here, I am just a peon.

i386 6y ago
They are still selling their datacenter version.
- waste_monk 6y ago
  The minimum seating for datacenter products is 500 users, with corresponding purchase and maintenance costs. It's simply not viable for small businesses who are unable to move to the cloud. For example, if my employer (for whom the use of cloud hosted service is simply not possible) wanted to keep using Atlassian products, moving to datacenter would cost us many thousands of dollars more per year in maintenance while wasting literally hundreds of unnecessary seats we'd be forced to pay for. This announcement has ruined my day. Not only will we have to abandon a number of projects to implement new Atlassian products, we'll have to start planning to migrate all of our existing instances to other products and re-build all the work flow and customisations in those. At least they've given a few years window for changeover, but this is going to generate a lot of work and our confluence power-users are going to be very upset at having to move to Sharepoint or some other horror.
  - ec109685 6y ago
    Is all that work worth saving 40k a year? https://www.atlassian.com/licensing/future-pricing/data-center-pricing/pricing-tables https://www.atlassian.com/licensing/future-pricing/data-cent...
    - manicdee 6y ago
      For some beancounters, the fact that that $40k opex turns into $400k in salaries used for non productive purposes is invisible.
tupputuppu 6y ago
For 95% of companies, outsourcing your servers to the cloud is a drastic security improvement.
- kayfox 6y ago
  Tell that to CapitalOne.
  - longcommonname 6y ago
    Coming from a company that has capital one as a customer. They are one of the dumbest related to security. Banks are still in the stone age when it comes to NIST and cyber security.

i386 6y ago

They are still selling their datacenter version.

waste_monk 6y ago
The minimum seating for datacenter products is 500 users, with corresponding purchase and maintenance costs. It's simply not viable for small businesses who are unable to move to the cloud. For example, if my employer (for whom the use of cloud hosted service is simply not possible) wanted to keep using Atlassian products, moving to datacenter would cost us many thousands of dollars more per year in maintenance while wasting literally hundreds of unnecessary seats we'd be forced to pay for. This announcement has ruined my day. Not only will we have to abandon a number of projects to implement new Atlassian products, we'll have to start planning to migrate all of our existing instances to other products and re-build all the work flow and customisations in those. At least they've given a few years window for changeover, but this is going to generate a lot of work and our confluence power-users are going to be very upset at having to move to Sharepoint or some other horror.
- ec109685 6y ago
  Is all that work worth saving 40k a year? https://www.atlassian.com/licensing/future-pricing/data-center-pricing/pricing-tables https://www.atlassian.com/licensing/future-pricing/data-cent...
  - manicdee 6y ago
    For some beancounters, the fact that that $40k opex turns into $400k in salaries used for non productive purposes is invisible.

tupputuppu 6y ago

For 95% of companies, outsourcing your servers to the cloud is a drastic security improvement.

kayfox 6y ago
Tell that to CapitalOne.
- longcommonname 6y ago
  Coming from a company that has capital one as a customer. They are one of the dumbest related to security. Banks are still in the stone age when it comes to NIST and cyber security.