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The needs of the many(the entire population) are more important then the needs of the few( the advertising industry). If you disagree let me know why this indus

The needs of the many(the entire population) are more important then the needs of the few( the advertising industry). If you disagree let me know why this industry is worth it(if you try then also touch the subject of the tabcoo and diamond industryy and advertising to exploit the population for making money and how that is good somehow) I think that there are benefits for us the people so far and more to come when the regulations will be enforced, like: - more transparency, now you can see exactly that your data is shared with 100+ companies and you can see what is collected and decide for yourself if you want to visit or not, or maybe you want to use a VPN or private mode on this dubious website - you can request you data back and ask to be deleted. - some website will open in text only mode for EU users, you no longer need to waste a click to press the Reader Mode button. If you disagree then explain how the listed benefits are "zero benefits"

cblconfederate 6y ago
I dont agree with so much advertising on the internet. And i dont mean the tracking, i mean the amount of it, it's just unacceptable that there need to be so many ads in a page in order for a website to survive. Tracking ... i m not sure why it should bother me, as long as there are legal protections so it doesnt cross lines that are considered unethical (such as pregnancy or sex orientation). GDPR says nothing about it, it just blanket bans it. Google has only gotten mightier and greedier post-GDRP. So whatever defense is mounted on GDPR, the empirical fact is that it failed in its purpose. It was a missed opportunity. It could truly hurt google if (a) it declared private information as private property that can be sold in exchange for services or if (b) it provisioned a "PI" tax that should be mandatorily paid back to users similar to the link tax required to be paid to newspapers.
- simion314 6y ago
  GDPR is not about advertising, so you can put a billion ads if you want just don't track me behind my back then share this data with 100+ companies so now they all know all y activity on the internet. GDPR should not dictate how you implement ads, if you want targeted ads then maybe the industry needs to implement them respectfully, the user would opt=in, connect his browser with FB,Google,Twitter and then he will get targeted stuff. They could make a browser, DRM-it to shit and if you use that browser you get less ads but all of them are targeted and ever click in that browser is tracked, it would be an opt-in stuff where you sell your browsing activity for ad-points that you can spend on different websites to read articles. We need strong laws because the industry is fucking the users, they sell you products like a TV or an OS but they still want to make a few more cents so they continue to track you and sell your data to advertisers. IMO advertising is mostly manipulation, make people buy expensive diamonds or expensive clothing or phones when they don't have too, I would be curious if we could create a economy simulator and ban all advertising like it was done for cigarettes and see what happens.
nickpp 6y ago
"The many" don't give a crap about their so called "personal information". I don't care who tracks me and who targets me with ads, as long as it's not the government. I do hate when inane legislation like GDPR makes websites downgrade my UX to protect some information I don't give a crap about. But it's for my own good, of course.
- RobertKerans 6y ago
  So you don't care: that's fine. Others do care (and for demonstrably good reasons), you wanting slightly better UX doesn't trump that, it's just FYGM
- simion314 6y ago
  Dude , you can just click Accept and you can get tracked like the people outside EU. Anyway when you live in a society you have to respect the society rules even if you don't like them or you can move outside of EU(or use a VPN) to get the full experience advertisers intended it for you.

cblconfederate 6y ago

I dont agree with so much advertising on the internet. And i dont mean the tracking, i mean the amount of it, it's just unacceptable that there need to be so many ads in a page in order for a website to survive. Tracking ... i m not sure why it should bother me, as long as there are legal protections so it doesnt cross lines that are considered unethical (such as pregnancy or sex orientation). GDPR says nothing about it, it just blanket bans it. Google has only gotten mightier and greedier post-GDRP. So whatever defense is mounted on GDPR, the empirical fact is that it failed in its purpose. It was a missed opportunity. It could truly hurt google if (a) it declared private information as private property that can be sold in exchange for services or if (b) it provisioned a "PI" tax that should be mandatorily paid back to users similar to the link tax required to be paid to newspapers.

simion314 6y ago
GDPR is not about advertising, so you can put a billion ads if you want just don't track me behind my back then share this data with 100+ companies so now they all know all y activity on the internet. GDPR should not dictate how you implement ads, if you want targeted ads then maybe the industry needs to implement them respectfully, the user would opt=in, connect his browser with FB,Google,Twitter and then he will get targeted stuff. They could make a browser, DRM-it to shit and if you use that browser you get less ads but all of them are targeted and ever click in that browser is tracked, it would be an opt-in stuff where you sell your browsing activity for ad-points that you can spend on different websites to read articles. We need strong laws because the industry is fucking the users, they sell you products like a TV or an OS but they still want to make a few more cents so they continue to track you and sell your data to advertisers. IMO advertising is mostly manipulation, make people buy expensive diamonds or expensive clothing or phones when they don't have too, I would be curious if we could create a economy simulator and ban all advertising like it was done for cigarettes and see what happens.

nickpp 6y ago

"The many" don't give a crap about their so called "personal information". I don't care who tracks me and who targets me with ads, as long as it's not the government. I do hate when inane legislation like GDPR makes websites downgrade my UX to protect some information I don't give a crap about. But it's for my own good, of course.

RobertKerans 6y ago
So you don't care: that's fine. Others do care (and for demonstrably good reasons), you wanting slightly better UX doesn't trump that, it's just FYGM
simion314 6y ago
Dude , you can just click Accept and you can get tracked like the people outside EU. Anyway when you live in a society you have to respect the society rules even if you don't like them or you can move outside of EU(or use a VPN) to get the full experience advertisers intended it for you.