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Dark triad traits surface on this forum with some regularity. This is how they show up in workplaces with credentialed staff: + Public humiliation of victims

Dark triad traits surface on this forum with some regularity. This is how they show up in workplaces with credentialed staff: + Public humiliation of victims + Intentional isolation of victims + Smear campaigns against victims + Encourages others to torment, harass, alienate, and/or humiliate victims + Sabotage victims + Invades personal privacy of victims (feeds into other techniques) In broad strokes, these people can be identified through their use of social violence and deception. Whether their internal state of mind conforms to some pathology template is almost irrelevant.

momokoko 6y ago
> social violence This is some aggressive and concerning rhetoric. Being a jerk at work is not “violence” and we should not try to equate the two as being on the same level. Don’t forget that many fascist regimes were built around this kind of aggressive punishment of unpleasant behaviors.
- jlj 6y ago
  Recommend reading this [1] and then re-thinking what violence means. [1] https://smile.amazon.com/dp/189200528X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_mHOIFb57XAQSA https://smile.amazon.com/dp/189200528X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_... Or from the dictionary definition 1.b. [2] "extremely powerful or forceful and capable of causing damage" [2] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/violent https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/violent
  - momokoko 6y ago
    Exactly. This is scary stuff that leads to the government controlling behavior as opposed to a baseline of rules to protect individuals. We have seen throughout history that fascism and other forms of totalitarian governments base their foundation upon this type of strict “no broken windows” style of behavior control. Another popular technique for these types of regimes is changing the definition of words. I would strongly encourage you to look into the rise of fascism in the first half of the twentieth century. Recently fascism is more closely associated with nationalist and racist groups. But this was very different a hundred years ago when these ideas were first gaining large acceptance.
    - jlj 6y ago
      I didn't see the connection between the article and fascism. Maybe if mental health was a priority then individuals wouldn't be as susceptible to fascism or other control systems that prey on peoples' vulnerabilities and insecurities.
- loopz 6y ago
  Sure, the bully claiming to be the victim when trying to convince those around them that social degradation is sane behaviour.
- rmrfstar 6y ago
  Similar tactics are deployed in "psychological warfare" campaigns [1,2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung [2] https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/ https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

momokoko 6y ago

> social violence This is some aggressive and concerning rhetoric. Being a jerk at work is not “violence” and we should not try to equate the two as being on the same level. Don’t forget that many fascist regimes were built around this kind of aggressive punishment of unpleasant behaviors.

jlj 6y ago
Recommend reading this [1] and then re-thinking what violence means. [1] https://smile.amazon.com/dp/189200528X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_mHOIFb57XAQSA https://smile.amazon.com/dp/189200528X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_... Or from the dictionary definition 1.b. [2] "extremely powerful or forceful and capable of causing damage" [2] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/violent https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/violent
- momokoko 6y ago
  Exactly. This is scary stuff that leads to the government controlling behavior as opposed to a baseline of rules to protect individuals. We have seen throughout history that fascism and other forms of totalitarian governments base their foundation upon this type of strict “no broken windows” style of behavior control. Another popular technique for these types of regimes is changing the definition of words. I would strongly encourage you to look into the rise of fascism in the first half of the twentieth century. Recently fascism is more closely associated with nationalist and racist groups. But this was very different a hundred years ago when these ideas were first gaining large acceptance.
  - jlj 6y ago
    I didn't see the connection between the article and fascism. Maybe if mental health was a priority then individuals wouldn't be as susceptible to fascism or other control systems that prey on peoples' vulnerabilities and insecurities.
loopz 6y ago
Sure, the bully claiming to be the victim when trying to convince those around them that social degradation is sane behaviour.
rmrfstar 6y ago
Similar tactics are deployed in "psychological warfare" campaigns [1,2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung [2] https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/ https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/