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This entire argument is simply because Hamilton is black. He sets records and all of a sudden he can't shine by himself. Of course the team is important and ver

This entire argument is simply because Hamilton is black. He sets records and all of a sudden he can't shine by himself. Of course the team is important and very good but also so is Hamilton as is evident by his teammate who has the same car unless you truly believe Mercedes is giving his teammate a handicapped car.

focom 6y ago
Reading the first line: > Our statistical model finds that neither Lewis Hamilton nor Michael Schumacher is Formula 1’s greatest driver So its lame to play the racist card here.
- segmondy 6y ago
  Give me a break, let me guess, you are not black. Since Lewis got on top I have seen this argument come up, this rubbish didn't come up in the past. This same behavior happens all the time when a black person performs very well, folks find ways to take it away.
  - focom 6y ago
    I am Caribbean but unlike you, I don't fall for the victim hood narrative. Racism is not the reason for every issues in our community.
    - segmondy 6y ago
      Sure! ... and you think it's a coincidence that this article came out now? Not last year? Not 2 years ago? Hell, not 2 months ago. What do you think is the driving force behind the article?
Swizec 6y ago
It’s like genetics in other sports. You need the best car to win, that’s a given. But if you can’t drive at the car’s max, you won’t win. Just like a poorly trained athlete with perfect genetics won’t win. But comparing great athletes, the one with best genetics wins.
serf 6y ago
Let's talk about the 'same car' thing. The cars are from the same engineering firm. They are setup by different teams of people, worked on by different teams of people, and maintained by different teams of people. There is overlap, of course, but the cars' basically have their own groups individually for specific tuning/troubleshooting/telemetrics. If you think Valteri is getting the best and fastest crew to work on his car, the question turns into "Why would Mercedes use their best and brightest on their second in points?" The point is : there isn't a handicapped car per se, but one of the two teams that gravitate around the drivers' is better at it's job -- thus, one of the cars has an edge. It's a simple concept, but it has to be true. Mercedes can't simply clone their driver-centric teams over and stamp them to both sides -- so they have to prioritize their better driver having the faster team with more skill and better communication. Sucks for Valteri, but as we've seen race after race -- he gets by just fine.
TallGuyShort 6y ago
There has been an undertone in almost all controversies in F1 for decades that technology (and by proxy, money, computational power, etc.) is gradually replacing driving skill. It's hardly an argument that just came into being because Lewis Hamilton, who has been clearly one of the best in the world for 12 years already, is now in a 6-year winning streak with the dominant team. In fact if you look at patterns of team dominance, I'd argue this is already been the case for 30 years.
viburnum 6y ago
Yeah, it's crazy, Hamilton is obviously amazing. He's clobbered his teammates his entire career. He was so good his in his rookie season that Alonso, himself one of the greats, quit Mclaren rather than be the number two driver!

focom 6y ago

Reading the first line: > Our statistical model finds that neither Lewis Hamilton nor Michael Schumacher is Formula 1’s greatest driver So its lame to play the racist card here.

segmondy 6y ago
Give me a break, let me guess, you are not black. Since Lewis got on top I have seen this argument come up, this rubbish didn't come up in the past. This same behavior happens all the time when a black person performs very well, folks find ways to take it away.
- focom 6y ago
  I am Caribbean but unlike you, I don't fall for the victim hood narrative. Racism is not the reason for every issues in our community.
  - segmondy 6y ago
    Sure! ... and you think it's a coincidence that this article came out now? Not last year? Not 2 years ago? Hell, not 2 months ago. What do you think is the driving force behind the article?

Swizec 6y ago

It’s like genetics in other sports. You need the best car to win, that’s a given. But if you can’t drive at the car’s max, you won’t win. Just like a poorly trained athlete with perfect genetics won’t win. But comparing great athletes, the one with best genetics wins.

serf 6y ago

Let's talk about the 'same car' thing. The cars are from the same engineering firm. They are setup by different teams of people, worked on by different teams of people, and maintained by different teams of people. There is overlap, of course, but the cars' basically have their own groups individually for specific tuning/troubleshooting/telemetrics. If you think Valteri is getting the best and fastest crew to work on his car, the question turns into "Why would Mercedes use their best and brightest on their second in points?" The point is : there isn't a handicapped car per se, but one of the two teams that gravitate around the drivers' is better at it's job -- thus, one of the cars has an edge. It's a simple concept, but it has to be true. Mercedes can't simply clone their driver-centric teams over and stamp them to both sides -- so they have to prioritize their better driver having the faster team with more skill and better communication. Sucks for Valteri, but as we've seen race after race -- he gets by just fine.

TallGuyShort 6y ago

There has been an undertone in almost all controversies in F1 for decades that technology (and by proxy, money, computational power, etc.) is gradually replacing driving skill. It's hardly an argument that just came into being because Lewis Hamilton, who has been clearly one of the best in the world for 12 years already, is now in a 6-year winning streak with the dominant team. In fact if you look at patterns of team dominance, I'd argue this is already been the case for 30 years.

viburnum 6y ago

Yeah, it's crazy, Hamilton is obviously amazing. He's clobbered his teammates his entire career. He was so good his in his rookie season that Alonso, himself one of the greats, quit Mclaren rather than be the number two driver!