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The article is pretty bad. It starts as an anecdote about an inmate beaten to death by the wards, like if it was representative, but then the overwhelming major
by cm2187 6y ago
The article is pretty bad. It starts as an anecdote about an inmate beaten to death by the wards, like if it was representative, but then the overwhelming majority of deaths are a result of diseases, overdoses and suicides. Also no reference to the denominator, so you can’t really tell if there is an over mortality in jail vs outside (particularly for the subset of the population that is likely to end up in jail - drug addicts, people with mental problems, etc).
- komali2 6y agoIsn't the denominator a number that happens to also the vast majority of the world's imprisoned? Nothing you're saying makes me think any of this is ok lol.
- cm2187 6y agoWell, that’s the point. The larger the population in jail, the more likely you will have deaths in jails. It doesn’t means the death is caused by the imprisonment. Particularly for a high risk population.
- alexchamberlain 6y agoI'm not disagreeing with your point in anyway, but just a point of reference: the article is talking about American jails, as opposed to American prisons. If I understand it correctly, once convicted, most people would be sent to a prison. I don't think such a distinction is made elsewhere (at least not in the UK).
- futurehero 6y agoFor reference, post-conviction, those sentenced to a year or less remain in jails, while those sentenced to a year and a day or more go to prisons. Prison is actually preferable over jail for most incarcerated individuals, as jails tend to be more tightly controlled than prisons, which function like their own societies with built-in, tractable hierarchies. People in prisons behave, in a sense, because they have to live together.
- beer_cub 6y agoYou seem like a psychopath who's terrible at cocktail parties.
- lolbrels 6y agoAgreed and made a similar comment. Story is pushing an agenda 100% but will be eaten up by YC crowd.