I guess my point that at least for the city I was talking about the bids were rarely a good estimate of the cost and time required. I'm not saying that they nev

I guess my point that at least for the city I was talking about the bids were rarely a good estimate of the cost and time required. I'm not saying that they never make it for around that cost, but it is rare. The bids more reflected some complicated mating ritual to get their food in the door, then they deliver the bad news that the actual cost is higher the first chance they get.