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I thought most of the treatments were meant to help you recover faster, limit severity and feel better while you had the disease. I must be missing something.

judofyr 6y ago
> The results, which are yet to be peer-reviewed, suggest that none of these treatments has a substantial effect on mortality or on the length of time spent in hospital, the WHO said on Thursday. (Emphasis mine)
- peterwoerner 6y ago
  Thanks
TaupeRanger 6y ago
Well...yes...all those things plus hopefully preventing you from dying. Not sure where your confusion is.
vanderZwan 6y ago
Unless those treatments also ensure you can't spread the disease while recovering that actually sounds like an absolutely terrible idea to me.
- SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
  While that's true, we don't want people out and about while virulent, reducing severity and recovering faster doesn't sound like a terrible idea to me at all.
  - vanderZwan 6y ago
    My point is: what does "recovery" mean in this context? Feeling great but still being virulent during the same period? To give an analogy, I can take painkillers to suppress pain but my body is still as sick as before - it "only" affects my perception. Now, I'm not against easing symptoms in itself but given how many people I know who go to work while coughing I don't know how to feel about medication that only helps with perceived discomfort. (then again, I'm in Sweden where barely anyone seems to take covid seriously, sadly)
- anoncake 6y ago
  Neglecting mental health and education to protect people against Covid infections at all costs is disturbingly common. But neglecting people actually suffering from Covid, that's an original absurdity.
hjnilsson 6y ago
All those things are correlated with death. So that it does not reduce mortality, is a strong indicator that it won’t help with severity either.
- peterwoerner 6y ago
  Thanks!
anoncake 6y ago
Why would anyone spend time developing a treatment for temporarily feeling bad when dying is what people are afraid of?
- xuhu 6y ago
  If I was one of those 90% that survive, I'd rather recover completely than be left without smell, sight, hearing or other problems.
  - anoncake 6y ago
    How likely is that? There's a curious lack of non-anecdotal evidence.
  - anoncake 6y ago
    And I forgot: You wouldn't be one of the 90% but of the 99.5%.
- vharuck 6y ago
  To focus on another point the person you're replying to thought was the focus, limiting length of stay in the hospital would be valuable, even if it didn't affect mortality. Especially when one of the potential problems with COVID is running out of beds.
  - anoncake 6y ago
    I'd count that as preventing deaths since that's the point of being treated in a hospital.
- peterwoerner 6y ago
  Isn't that what much of the health care system is? Maybe I am overly cynical, but it seems we can't/don't fix underlying issues as much as treat symptoms. I really only have a third grade understanding of this stuff (we can fix bacterial infections but not viral ones) which is why I asked the original question.

judofyr 6y ago

> The results, which are yet to be peer-reviewed, suggest that none of these treatments has a substantial effect on mortality or on the length of time spent in hospital, the WHO said on Thursday. (Emphasis mine)

peterwoerner 6y ago
Thanks

TaupeRanger 6y ago

Well...yes...all those things plus hopefully preventing you from dying. Not sure where your confusion is.

vanderZwan 6y ago

Unless those treatments also ensure you can't spread the disease while recovering that actually sounds like an absolutely terrible idea to me.

SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
While that's true, we don't want people out and about while virulent, reducing severity and recovering faster doesn't sound like a terrible idea to me at all.
- vanderZwan 6y ago
  My point is: what does "recovery" mean in this context? Feeling great but still being virulent during the same period? To give an analogy, I can take painkillers to suppress pain but my body is still as sick as before - it "only" affects my perception. Now, I'm not against easing symptoms in itself but given how many people I know who go to work while coughing I don't know how to feel about medication that only helps with perceived discomfort. (then again, I'm in Sweden where barely anyone seems to take covid seriously, sadly)
anoncake 6y ago
Neglecting mental health and education to protect people against Covid infections at all costs is disturbingly common. But neglecting people actually suffering from Covid, that's an original absurdity.

hjnilsson 6y ago

All those things are correlated with death. So that it does not reduce mortality, is a strong indicator that it won’t help with severity either.

peterwoerner 6y ago
Thanks!

anoncake 6y ago

Why would anyone spend time developing a treatment for temporarily feeling bad when dying is what people are afraid of?

xuhu 6y ago
If I was one of those 90% that survive, I'd rather recover completely than be left without smell, sight, hearing or other problems.
- anoncake 6y ago
  How likely is that? There's a curious lack of non-anecdotal evidence.
- anoncake 6y ago
  And I forgot: You wouldn't be one of the 90% but of the 99.5%.
vharuck 6y ago
To focus on another point the person you're replying to thought was the focus, limiting length of stay in the hospital would be valuable, even if it didn't affect mortality. Especially when one of the potential problems with COVID is running out of beds.
- anoncake 6y ago
  I'd count that as preventing deaths since that's the point of being treated in a hospital.
peterwoerner 6y ago
Isn't that what much of the health care system is? Maybe I am overly cynical, but it seems we can't/don't fix underlying issues as much as treat symptoms. I really only have a third grade understanding of this stuff (we can fix bacterial infections but not viral ones) which is why I asked the original question.